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Ziggy Stardust
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PostPosted: Mon Jan 21, 2008 11:48 am    Post subject: Help buying a Orville Custom Reply with quote

I'm considering buying myself a black Orville Custom. I've huge plans for it. Install a 3rd pickup, and a Bigsby!
Gonna make it look like this!
http://www.woodbrass.com/images/woodbrass/LES+PAUL+CUSTOM+57+BIGSBY.JPG

So, which Orvilles am I suppose to look after? which years, and who are they suppose to be made of?

I've heard that Orville is the best option if you want a Les Paul Custom? Is that right?

I've found some on ebay's. Which of these would be the best choice?

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/Orville-by-Gibson-LPC-MIJ-Black-Beauty_W0QQitemZ150207980122QQihZ005QQcategoryZ47072QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/FugiGen-Orville-x-Gibson-Les-Paul-Custom-MIJ-Vintage_W0QQitemZ180208468163QQihZ008QQcategoryZ47072QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/Orville-Gibson-Black-MIJ-LPC-USA-PUs-Seymour-Duncan_W0QQitemZ150207363794QQihZ005QQcategoryZ47072QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/Orville-Gibson-Les-Paul-Custom-Black-MIJ-by-Fujigen_W0QQitemZ150207350479QQihZ005QQcategoryZ47072QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem
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PostPosted: Mon Jan 21, 2008 11:52 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

The best guitar out of those you have posted is the first one. Guitars with 'Orville by Gibson' on the headstock instead of just 'Orville' are generally better guitars. This is not always true though, there may be specific Orvilles that are excellent!
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Ziggy Stardust
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PostPosted: Mon Jan 21, 2008 11:58 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

How does they compare to Gibsons?
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PostPosted: Mon Jan 21, 2008 12:26 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

In my opinion Orville by Gibsons are better guitars than the current Gibsons, with the exception of the 'Historic' models.
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Ziggy Stardust
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PostPosted: Mon Jan 21, 2008 1:49 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thanks for the replies!

It's very tempting to buy one of those, and install a 3rd pickup and a Bigsby.
Those are beautyfull!



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PostPosted: Mon Jan 21, 2008 2:00 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'm sure Orville do a 3 pick-up model, Greco Gertainly do.
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PostPosted: Mon Jan 21, 2008 2:07 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Didn't find anyone on ebay
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PostPosted: Mon Jan 21, 2008 2:50 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Keep looking I'm sure one will come up before too long. Much easier & cheaper than fitting a 3rd pickup
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PostPosted: Mon Jan 21, 2008 3:10 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I don't know much about Les Pauls, but I do know that routing the body of a guitar for an extra pickup is often not a good idea, and will nearly always reduce it's value. Even if it doesn't reduce the value, you won't get back the money you pay out to have the work done.

If you own a guitar that you love (maybe because the neck is perfect for you), & you know you are going to keep that guitar for the rest of your life (so you don't care about it's resale value) it just might be worth having major surgery done on it, if it will make you love it even more.

Apart from that situation, I don't think it's a good idea - better to wait for a 3 pickup model to come along, and buy that. Then, if you don't get on with it, you can sell it and (hopefully) get your money back.

However, it's your money and your decision....

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PostPosted: Mon Jan 21, 2008 11:57 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I saw a 3 pickup Orville by Gibson the other day on Yahoo Japan.

http://page17.auctions.yahoo.co.jp/jp/auction/v41350631

and here is another

http://page5.auctions.yahoo.co.jp/jp/auction/e72008222

There are only 3 pickup Orville by Gibsons and no Orvilles and they were mostly made around 1990.
I havn't seen many 3 pickup Orville by Gibsons on ebay and there doesn't seem to have been too many that were made.
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PostPosted: Tue Jan 22, 2008 5:32 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

another thing to consider ziggy just in case you may not have done so yet; go and play a 3 pickup Lester and see how you actually like playing one with a third pickup

I purchased a 3 pickup Burny RLC, which was a fantastic guitar
Only thing was, I was nearly always hitting the middle pickup with my pick, which was extremely annoying.

I eventually bought a 2 pickup Burny RLC as a replacement & sold the 3 pup model.

Just something to think about, in case you haven't alraedy done so..............

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PostPosted: Tue Jan 22, 2008 6:26 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I definitely agree with mijvintage on this point, even on 'superstrats' with 2 humbuckers and a single coil in the middle I find there isn't enough room if you are used to playing a 2 humbucker guitar, you need to adjust your playing style to suit.

They do look cool though
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PostPosted: Tue Jan 22, 2008 7:05 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Is it me, or are those bound headstocks too big? Maybe it's my eyes, or the binding confusing me, but they just look too big.
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PostPosted: Tue Jan 22, 2008 7:13 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

The problem is that the only two guitar stores in this town only has ESP, Epiphone and other brands which is non interesting. Perhaps they have one Gibson LP Std in stock, but rarely. Never anything more expensive.
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PostPosted: Tue Jan 22, 2008 7:13 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

stratman323 wrote:
Is it me, or are those bound headstocks too big? Maybe it's my eyes, or the binding confusing me, but they just look too big.


The custom headstocks do look big, but that's how they are.
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