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Honeyburst Super Real. Only EGF 1200?
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PostPosted: Wed Jan 30, 2008 3:08 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

58-120 and EGF-1200 essentially the same guitar...some minor differences , in PU and tenon construction method, some very late superreal EGF-1200 were sent out from the factory tagged as 58-120's

so there would be a super real EGF=1200 with a 58-120 tag on it...
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PostPosted: Wed Jan 30, 2008 7:59 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Mickdal wrote:
Thanks mate,

You are right about the EG58-120 sticker displaying a 1200

This has all the info......

http://www.sf.airnet.ne.jp/~shake/greco/MyGreco/eg58-120/eg58-120_1.html



Mick


I haven't been able to translate these pages but i realise it has the info. I've tried bablefish before and now excite with no luck.. any tips on that?
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PostPosted: Wed Jan 30, 2008 8:01 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Mickdal wrote:
Thanks mate,

You are right about the EG58-120 sticker displaying a 1200

This has all the info......

http://www.sf.airnet.ne.jp/~shake/greco/MyGreco/eg58-120/eg58-120_1.html



Mick


I haven't been able to translate these pages but i realise it has the info. I've tried bablefish before and now excite with no luck.. any tips on that?
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PostPosted: Wed Jan 30, 2008 8:01 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Mickdal wrote:
Thanks mate,

You are right about the EG58-120 sticker displaying a 1200

This has all the info......

http://www.sf.airnet.ne.jp/~shake/greco/MyGreco/eg58-120/eg58-120_1.html



Mick


I haven't been able to translate these pages but i realise it has the info. I've tried bablefish before and now excite with no luck.. any tips on that?
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PostPosted: Wed Jan 30, 2008 5:31 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hey DNS, try this mate...

Using this link here to the Japan excite URL translator to English

http://www.excite.co.jp/world/english/web/

You will see the url box, just copy paste the url you want to translate, then, underneath the url box you will see two circled button options, just select the right hand circle, then click the orange highlighted box to the right, and bingo.........

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PostPosted: Wed Jan 30, 2008 6:16 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hi Mick, you can also install the japanese language packs in windows service pack 2 and then all i do is right click on the page and select"translate from japanese to english.

Cheers Mick
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PostPosted: Thu Jan 31, 2008 11:28 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

The service pack did it! Thanks Leadguitar!
A new question for the knowables:
When did the surface under the pickups go flat on the grecos?
The EG58-120 with 1200 sticker earlier in this thread is number 2 3367 and has flat surface. Mine nr 2 003x is not flat.
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PostPosted: Tue Feb 05, 2008 6:36 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

villager wrote:
1800 and 2500, CHSB, TBB, VSB
only honeyburst for 1200,
1000 CHSB and very rarely TBB
850 CHSB and honeyburst.

the bindings not tinted its just old and dirty heh..


I'm talking about the ones with tinted laquer making the binding look yellowish. The earlier EGF didn't have that,they where honeyburst with whiter binding(clear laquer). I havent yet seen an EGF 850 with this feature (tinted that is).

villager wrote:

all binding on 850 1000 and 1200 is the same..


Which Mint Collection models has the rolled off binding ?

Did the flat surface around the pickups start with the Mint series or does it depend on model level?
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PostPosted: Tue Feb 05, 2008 9:20 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

This is mine with the tinted laquer over the binding. And rounded carving on the top.


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PostPosted: Thu Feb 07, 2008 3:59 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

So only the Super Reals had the correct carved top. Not the Mint Collection.
The alu stoptail was only on the egf1200. Not on the lower number models..
And the tinted laquer was only on the EGF 1200 Super Real. On many Mint Collection though..

That makes mine a 1200!
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PostPosted: Thu Feb 07, 2008 4:24 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

DNS wrote:
So only the Super Reals had the correct carved top. Not the Mint Collection.
The alu stoptail was only on the egf1200. Not on the lower number models..
And the tinted laquer was only on the EGF 1200 Super Real. On many Mint Collection though..

That makes mine a 1200!


So, what pickups are in there...............
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PostPosted: Thu Feb 07, 2008 4:44 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

MIJvintage wrote:
DNS wrote:
So only the Super Reals had the correct carved top. Not the Mint Collection.
The alu stoptail was only on the egf1200. Not on the lower number models..
And the tinted laquer was only on the EGF 1200 Super Real. On many Mint Collection though..

That makes mine a 1200!


So, what pickups are in there...............


One changed and one DRY.
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PostPosted: Fri Feb 08, 2008 6:53 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I don't think the lacquer is not tinted.....where did you see that?

i think thats just age, and exposure to sunlight surely?


I have seen all super reals with differing colours on the lacquer from clear to brown...

I don't think you can say its a 1200 for sure yet..

the 3 piece back is not normal for a 1200...although thats not to say there were none....

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PostPosted: Sat Feb 09, 2008 4:10 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

villager wrote:
I don't think the lacquer is not tinted.....where did you see that?

i think thats just age, and exposure to sunlight surely?


I have seen all super reals with differing colours on the lacquer from clear to brown...

I don't think you can say its a 1200 for sure yet..

the 3 piece back is not normal for a 1200...although thats not to say there were none....

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I'm just guessing from bad catalog scans. So it's not dirt then is it?
Which had the aluminum tailpiece?

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PostPosted: Sat Feb 09, 2008 4:52 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

After having another look at your headstock photo DNS, the shape looks ok for a low end EGF (headstock shape that is), but, it's the Greco logo, it just does not look right......to me

The o is open, and the G is does not look correct either....

The EGF1200 Greco logo on the headstock is very thick for a 1980 model, then thins sligtly for 1981.....

But it's the shape of yours that does not look right? IMHO for any EGF



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