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ATTENTION Springy, Breezy and Silverstar owners
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luis
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PostPosted: Wed Apr 02, 2008 12:33 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I?ve put serial numbers above....
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vitriol
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PostPosted: Mon Apr 07, 2008 1:53 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Peter Mac wrote:
Hi Vitriol

the guitar is a 1981 build but i am curious as to the colour.
Should have spagetti logo.

regards
Peter Mac


The colour is metallic blue, spaghetti logo. I have posted pics on this forum in a different thread
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makaze
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PostPosted: Wed Apr 09, 2008 12:16 pm    Post subject: st 60 details Reply with quote

Hello,, cant wait for the book.

a nice st 60.

sn. 0016685

neck stamp (in black) 2=2
front pup (in red) 2=1 (in black) MR X

st50 (?)

sn L21259

neck stamp 1 (big space then ) 1=12

pot cavity stamp 11=12 MR Z
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Peter Mac
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PostPosted: Wed May 07, 2008 7:50 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hi Makaze,

thanks for your help with the info . . .

as i keep saying, every bit helps for the 'Big Picture'

The book is coming along well, i will be posting pages on togps website
www.tokaiguitar.de
in the 'History' section

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Alvaro
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PostPosted: Thu May 08, 2008 12:55 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hi

1983 Silver Star ?SS-36?

Serial: 3030150
Neck stamp: none
Body stamp: 2.1 21BB=2
Pups: Greybottoms no stamp. Blue/Black wires
Neck: Maple

Color: Black
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settebello
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PostPosted: Fri Dec 12, 2008 11:09 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hi Peter

'81 Silver Star SS60

SN: 1012756
Neck: 2=6
Body: 1=7 BB X
Pups: gray bottom no stamp,blue/black wire
Neck: Rosewood
Colour: Black

Volker
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Diodibuh
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PostPosted: Fri Dec 12, 2008 1:31 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

'81 Silverstar
still not shure if she is SS60 or something else

SNo: 1016555
Neck: 1=4
Body: under neck: 1=5, under electronics: 1=5YS
Pickups: grey back, staggered, no stamp,blue/black wire
Neck: rosewood
Color: 3 tone sunburst
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PostPosted: Mon Dec 22, 2008 1:16 pm    Post subject: 1981 Breezy Reply with quote

1981 Breezy sound TE50

Serial: 1022621 (could also be 1022521) the 5th digit is hard to read
Neck stamp: 11=9
Neck pup route: 11=9
Body stamp: 11=9 BL Z
Pups: Neck: Black Bottom TEB; Bridge: Brass Bottom TEB. White & Red Wires
Neck: Maple C shape 7.25 radius

Color: Blond

All the numbers match which was weird
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PostPosted: Mon Dec 22, 2008 3:54 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hi Peter,

Not complete info but I hope it may be of some use.

Double bound red Breezy sound (believed to be a TE70) bought s/h in 86 so not sure of age, though logo is NOT spaghetti one.
Serial No. 0012912
Neck 7=7 (maple 7 1/4 radius) skunk stripe
Pups TEBs
original looking wiring- red ,white,black.

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settebello
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PostPosted: Fri Feb 27, 2009 1:10 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hi Peter

'79 ST80

SN: 9005343
Neck: 8=3&4 A
Body: 12=2 GS A
Pups: E
Neck: Rosewood
Colour: Golden Sunburst

Volker
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brad347
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PostPosted: Fri Feb 27, 2009 8:42 pm    Post subject: Re: ATTENTION Springy, Breezy and Silverstar owners Reply with quote

OK well here's mine. I bought it from a guy who had 2 Springys, both in black, one with rosewood and one with maple (mine) and I would not be surprised at all if the necks and bodies got swapped around at some point. But I guess that's always true with guitars that are 30 years old, you just never know what is original and what's not.

My neck is peculiar. It says 2=2A, but the second 2 is crossed out and handwritten above in pen it says 2=3A(!)

Body says 2=3BB A Y

When I bought the guitar, the pickups in it were U, but the ones in it now are E (I changed them myself). BUT, the paint is definitely nitro (did the acetone test) AND the '80' sticker is still intact on the neck heel. Body is Sen. Methinks it is strange that this Springy was an ST-80 with U pickups, but if Tokai was anything like the real Fender, anything is possible!!

Neck and board are maple, but as I said, who knows if the other guy may have swapped between his two otherwise identical springys

I don't know where to find the serial number on the guitar, I'm not sure where you guys are getting yours, but my guitar DID come with some hang tags in the case pocket!!

On the hang tags is model number ST-80BBR, serial number 1013561

I would assume this is probably the serial number for the rosewood board guitar, since it says "BBR" on it.

Since the body says "BB" and not "BBR," I'd assume the body and neck probably belong together.

There is only a 4-digit number on the neckplate, 0173. I'd assume this is not a real serial number.

Hope that helps in some way!!
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terry
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PostPosted: Sat Feb 28, 2009 6:19 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

hi got some incomplete information-

Black Breezysound te50 1984

Bodystamp = pencil scrawl no.7?,
Serial number L19744,
Neck stamp 2=11,
Bridge pup te8, neck te5,
Neck maple/roseboard.

Silverstar Natural ss85

Bodystamp, 5=8na
Serial no., 0009492
Neck stamp, havent removed neck.
Pickups, unmarked
Neck, all maple.
The silverstar was posted on here so you may have that info.
regards
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robdefries
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PostPosted: Thu May 06, 2010 1:34 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Black Breezy Sound, TE50?, 1981?

Serial : 11486
Neck stamp : 1=9
Body stamp : 1=9 BB Z (or2?)
Bridge pickup : TEB
Neck pickup : missing
Neck : Maple Skunk Spag logo but behind the string retainer
Colour: Black (white guard, 5 screws)
Neck pocket : Jap scribbling like on the pic...

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Peter Mac
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PostPosted: Sun May 09, 2010 10:26 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thanks for contributing, guys - i'll try and answer some of the queries...
ROB - Black Breezysound = 1982 TE-50 - 5 digit number with spaghetti logo can only be 1982.

BRAD347 - Black springys - Maple neck is 1982, Rosewood is 1981 - 4 digit serial# is correct for ST-80 from 1982, 7 digit is correct for 1981 - Your body and neck are matched (2=3A) but i would think the previous owner swapped the pickups from E to U, the scratchplate should be singleply w' 8 screws.
Both bodies would be 'BB' as the neck was not indicated in the painting process

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robdefries
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PostPosted: Mon May 10, 2010 1:16 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Peter Mac wrote:
Thanks for contributing, guys - i'll try and answer some of the queries...
ROB - Black Breezysound = 1982 TE-50 - 5 digit number with spaghetti logo can only be 1982.



Thanks!

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