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I bought a TOKAI PB HardPuncher, Any Info's about this?
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quinlan_vhos
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PostPosted: Tue Dec 16, 2008 2:54 am    Post subject: I bought a TOKAI PB HardPuncher, Any Info's about this? Reply with quote

I bought this bass last week from a vintage guitar/bass collector for $240. I was happy for its killer tone, although i read most topic on these forums, i still want to have an information regarding my bass, since this is my first time to owned a TOKAI BASS..

any comments is welcomed, especially its specification and year model.
thnx a lot

here's the pics of my TOKAI BASS

http://img389.imageshack.us/img389/6214/dsc00182wn6.jpg

http://img214.imageshack.us/img214/8681/dsc00184ym1.jpg

http://img244.imageshack.us/img244/2599/dsc00187ju5.jpg

http://img244.imageshack.us/img244/1577/dsc00185lp0.jpg

http://img244.imageshack.us/img244/8233/dsc00189nk6.jpg

http://img244.imageshack.us/img244/7848/dsc00188bs7.jpg

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PostPosted: Tue Dec 16, 2008 4:01 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hi there,
Looks like a fine Hard Puncher bass, all original, I'd guess circa 1984-87.
Body wood is ash or alder, neck is maple, the colour is Metallic Red (MR).
Hard Punchers are hard to date as they look the same from 1984 until at least 1989, possibly even longer but I haven't seen a PB50 in the later catalogues.
The glued on bit on the headstock is a bit of a shame and may possibly indicate a later model as the earlier ones explicitly stated "one piece neck"
The model no. and logo type is slightly confusing though, I thought the PB50 was a '64 model which should have "Hard Puncher" under "Tokai", not after.

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PostPosted: Tue Dec 16, 2008 4:42 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

mrsuspend wrote:
The glued on bit on the headstock is a bit of a shame and may possibly indicate a later model as the earlier ones explicitly stated "one piece neck"


I haven't seen that before on a Tokai, except for my SS, which has 2 bits glued on the bottom of the headstock.



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PostPosted: Tue Dec 16, 2008 6:06 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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The glued on bit on the headstock is a bit of a shame and may possibly indicate a later model as the earlier ones explicitly stated "one piece neck"


thanks sir, but can you point out exactly "the glued on the headsstock" that you said. wheres that part sir? and whats the comparison between the earlier and later models? pardon me sir coz im still an amateur when it comes to specifications, and it makes me more interested about ur info's thnx a lot
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PostPosted: Tue Dec 16, 2008 6:15 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

In the pic of the headstock you can see a slightly darker area with a clearly defined edge above the A and E tuners which looks glued on, at least to me.
In other respects I should think the quality and playbility to be very similar to earlier versions although I haven't played every Hard Puncher.

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PostPosted: Tue Dec 16, 2008 6:41 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

That is an unusual place for a join ....might just be discoloration of the maple.

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PostPosted: Tue Dec 16, 2008 6:47 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

It's hard to tell from a photo, it's true.
Hopefully I'm wrong
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PostPosted: Tue Dec 16, 2008 7:08 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

ah ok i get it sir, but do i need to worry about that?

And aside from that, what about the other parts of this bass sir, do you think that its still all legit/genuine/stock?

thanks for all your info's
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PostPosted: Tue Dec 16, 2008 7:15 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

You don't need to worry about it at all! It's purely cosmetic.
Your bass looks all genuine to me although you would have to take it completely to pieces to be 100% certain.

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PostPosted: Tue Dec 16, 2008 7:56 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

well then, thanks for all your comments and info's guys, especially to mr. magnus thanks a lot sir

merry christmas
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PostPosted: Tue Dec 16, 2008 8:42 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Right back at ya!
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PostPosted: Thu May 21, 2009 3:16 pm    Post subject: Re: I bought a TOKAI PB HardPuncher, Any Info's about this? Reply with quote

Here is my PB60 from (what I think 1983)

They look the same at a first look


Stickers are there


And here is the difference: On the left the PB60 and on the right a PB40 from 1981 (I think) note the screws!! The tuners are not changed on the pB60 cause there are no additional holes (well, it never had three screw tuners mounted)



I have also noticed that PB40 in general has 3 piece bodies while the PB60 has a 2 piece body.
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PostPosted: Sat Sep 26, 2009 11:25 am    Post subject: Looks like an '84 Reply with quote

I own an identical one, same colour and appointments. Mine's killer, I bet yours is, too.

Pretty sure i's an '84 based on the logo. by '85 the H/S shape was more angular.

More info here:

http://www.tokairegistry.com/tokai-info/tokai-fender.html
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PostPosted: Sat Sep 26, 2009 3:44 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Actually the headstock shape only changed in the US. The Fender-correct headstocks were supplied to the rest of the world into the 90's.
The registry is sadly not updated in this regard, however there are quite a few discussion threads on this subject.

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PostPosted: Sun Sep 27, 2009 2:42 am    Post subject: New to me Reply with quote

This is the first I've ever heard of this.

Not to argue, just for my own interest, can you link me any of these discussions?
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