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A few questions regarding my Springy..
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stratman323
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PostPosted: Wed Dec 03, 2008 9:26 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I doubt if a pickup that hot is piercing - more likely to be muddy. Or dull.

I suppose it's possible that it's too close to the strings and is inhibiting the vibration? That could affect sustain.
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PostPosted: Wed Dec 03, 2008 9:39 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

stratman323 wrote:
I doubt if a pickup that hot is piercing - more likely to be muddy. Or dull.


Really? I always thought the opposite with single coils. My U pickups have a significantly higher output than my E's and the U bridge pickup is almost painful to listen to compared to the E p'up. Same setup, p'up and string height on both guitars.
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PostPosted: Wed Dec 03, 2008 9:47 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Have a look at the Seymour Duncan website.

http://www.seymourduncan.com/comparetones

The tone chart allows you to compare different pickups, & as a general rule, the higher the output, the lower the resonant peak, and the greater the mid range.

Personally, I find the Us a little fatter and less brittle than Es, but that's very much a personal opinion.
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PostPosted: Wed Dec 03, 2008 10:10 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I mostly use the neck pickup anyway. But the bridge pickup actually works pretty good, like a Texas Special with som extra spice..

The sustain is better on my Callaham equipped AV '62 strat. I just feel that this Tokai has more in it.. and that it would be an improvement with a new block/ bridge assembly! But I still dont know if it will fit...
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PostPosted: Wed Dec 03, 2008 10:14 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Have a look at the Seymour Duncan website.

http://www.seymourduncan.com/comparetones

The tone chart allows you to compare different pickups, & as a general rule, the higher the output, the lower the resonant peak, and the greater the mid range.

Personally, I find the Us a little fatter and less brittle than Es, but that's very much a personal opinion.



Hmm...cool. Thanks.....whad'ya expect from a blonde.
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PostPosted: Wed Dec 03, 2008 10:27 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ramblin wrote:
The sustain is better on my Callaham equipped AV '62 strat. I just feel that this Tokai has more in it.. and that it would be an improvement with a new block/ bridge assembly! But I still dont know if it will fit...


Well you might be right, but I use my ST80 alongside my 1983 US62RI, & there is no difference is sustain between the two of them. I can even get a half-decent Santana-ish tone on Black Magic Woman out of either of them.

A Callaghan block probably won't fit, as someone said earlier, as Tokais are built to metric measurements.
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PostPosted: Wed Dec 03, 2008 11:23 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Hi. Chris, note: in 1980 were the S/N#s 7 digits! (all Tokai models)


Thanks togps--you are the man! Did this serial # type start around 1982?
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PostPosted: Wed Dec 10, 2008 3:38 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Fixed my little sustain-problem tonight.. all it needed was a proper setup. Tightened the screws that holds the bridge down, and added an extra spring. Now it sounds much better!

I'd still like to swap the trem-block, the original one is made of pot-metal.. I actually have a Tokai bridge with Final Prospect saddles on a partsocaster I bought last year. It's at my friends studio, I'll have a look at it tomorrow and see i it has a steel block..
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PostPosted: Wed Dec 10, 2008 4:00 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ramblin wrote:
I actually have a Tokai bridge with Final Prospect saddles on a partsocaster I bought last year. It's at my friends studio, I'll have a look at it tomorrow and see i it has a steel block..


Glad to hear it's sorted.

If I have this right, the final prospec saddles & the steel block were both introduced at around the same time, I think 1982. So you might be in luck.
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PostPosted: Wed Dec 10, 2008 9:16 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hi Ramblin,just a quick ?did u have the refret done or was it already done when you bought it.can you notice if the finish is still in tact......Im looking at getting my springy st50 done so im gathering info on it. Thanks,......Nate ps lovely guitar!
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PostPosted: Thu Dec 11, 2008 1:03 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Nate wrote:
Hi Ramblin,just a quick ?did u have the refret done or was it already done when you bought it.can you notice if the finish is still in tact......Im looking at getting my springy st50 done so im gathering info on it. Thanks,......Nate ps lovely guitar!


It was already done when I bought it. It's pretty common to refinish the fretboard when changing the frets, at least on nitro-finished guitars. There's some laquer at the fret-ends on mine, it looks like a light overspray was done.

A good luthier could probably swap the frets very gently, leaving the original finish the way it is.
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PostPosted: Thu Dec 11, 2008 7:55 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hi Ramblin,
Did you manage to confirm whether or not this is nitro-finished? Just curious...
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PostPosted: Fri Dec 12, 2008 2:19 am    Post subject: nitro/poly? Reply with quote

Just one of the tips I've picked up from all the collective wisdom here,
get a UV security pen thing they usually come with a small torch to read the invisibe ink, you can use the black light to determine what varnish it is.
Very nice looking guitar.
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PostPosted: Fri Dec 12, 2008 8:46 am    Post subject: Re: nitro/poly? Reply with quote

eddie h wrote:
Just one of the tips I've picked up from all the collective wisdom here,
get a UV security pen thing they usually come with a small torch to read the invisibe ink, you can use the black light to determine what varnish it is.
Very nice looking guitar.


Can you explain this further and/or link to a post discussing it? How exactly do you tell with the light? Does nitro glow different or something? Let me know, for I may have to order one of these pens.
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PostPosted: Fri Dec 12, 2008 8:52 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I tried the black light test, using a fake banknote detector. Both poly & nitro finishes looked the same to me.
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