the strength of the yen..worrying..

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Post by Nate » Thu Dec 04, 2008 5:09 pm

i know nothing about the economic situation but here in Australia ,All jap tokai's have gone from, well lets say an ls 85 which retailed at $1295 all the way up to $1595.Thats a pretty big jump in price and i have been told that they will go up further,,,....aghhhhhhhh :evil: Ps i just bought an gs100 and i got it for about $750 but are now at $1099 so holy ^&*(!!!

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Post by leadguitar_323 » Thu Dec 04, 2008 5:25 pm

I was talking to a Japanese seller last week and he has dropped some of his prices, but was saying that he is only selling 5% of what he was selling last year at the same time. If this goes on much longer then i would expect dealer prices to come down a bit..

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Post by stratmoto » Thu Dec 04, 2008 6:07 pm

Nate wrote:i know nothing about the economic situation but here in Australia ,All jap tokai's have gone from, well lets say an ls 85 which retailed at $1295 all the way up to $1595.Thats a pretty big jump in price and i have been told that they will go up further,,,....aghhhhhhhh :evil: Ps i just bought an gs100 and i got it for about $750 but are now at $1099 so holy ^&*(!!!
What??

LS85F went from $1299 to $1499 and the GS100 is $999.

Maybe the shops think that they should be more expensive. Compare Aussie prices for Tokai to anywhere else in the world, including Japan. 95,000 Yen converts to $1596.30 on XE.com, today.

With the Aussie dollar buying 59yen, now, compared to 97yen, back in June when the prices were actually reduced in Australia it is impossible to keep the prices as low as they were.

How many other brands are globally competitive, ie, are priced very close to the same as the country of origin, in Oz?

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Post by MIJvintage » Fri Dec 05, 2008 5:36 am

leadguitar_323 wrote:I was talking to a Japanese seller last week and he has dropped some of his prices, but was saying that he is only selling 5% of what he was selling last year at the same time. If this goes on much longer then i would expect dealer prices to come down a bit..

Mick


............ only selling 5% of what he was selling this time last year? ............... WOW .............

maybe Roubini & Schiff are correct in their assessments of the overall economy .......... let's hope they are wrong .............
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Post by villager » Fri Dec 05, 2008 6:07 am

I have noticed around a 25% drop in sales since last year..
but, for the last couple years there has been a growing scarcity of good MIJ so theres not so much to buy..kind of balances out..

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Post by Dave_Mc » Fri Dec 05, 2008 11:19 am

JohnA wrote:
stratman323 wrote:I'm far too stupid to understand exchange rates, but I would have thought that car sales, in particular, were a major part of the Japanese economy. But not all Japanese cars are made in Japan - I think it's Nissan who have a huge factory up near JohnA, & I think there are others too. Does this affect them? If not, they must be glad they have these other factories to rely on.
Yes it affects them in a big way!

If Nissan Sunderland was forecast to sell 1000 micra's a month at ?10,000 each that meant the parent company was rubbing hands waiting for 2300000 Yen each month, now they will be getting 1360000, so everyone in Sunderland will lose their jobs!!
on the flip side, though, the wages are going to cost them less- don't know much about economics, but i'd have thought that'd help the company rather than hurt it. After all, companies outsource to places where the wages are lower. but that might be moot if UK-built cars are only sold in the UK (i have no idea if they are or not).

i think the bigger problem is that no-one is buying any cars. :lol:

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Post by thechadz03 » Sat Dec 06, 2008 6:17 am

Does anyone find it strange that nearly all these old MIJ guitars seem to be sold overseas rather than at home?

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Post by villager » Sat Dec 06, 2008 6:19 am

but the overseas market is much larger than the Japanese home market..

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Post by marcusnieman » Sat Dec 06, 2008 8:45 am

thechadz03 wrote:Does anyone find it strange that nearly all these old MIJ guitars seem to be sold overseas rather than at home?
Don't know where "home" is if you don't put it on your profile. :roll:

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Post by villager » Sat Dec 06, 2008 8:46 am

he means rather than in Japan

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Post by marcusnieman » Sat Dec 06, 2008 8:47 am

villager wrote:he means rather than in Japan
Sorry....better go back to my first cup of coffee. :oops:

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Post by villager » Sat Dec 06, 2008 8:48 am

heh morning...

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Post by f5joe » Sat Dec 06, 2008 9:10 am

thechadz03 wrote:Does anyone find it strange that nearly all these old MIJ guitars seem to be sold overseas rather than at home?
For many years, the folks in the USA wondered the same about the old Gibsons/Fenders/Martins. It is a global market on these, imo.
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Post by cryptozoo » Sat Dec 06, 2008 6:27 pm

Mark, does this mean you're lowering your prices?

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Post by MIJvintage » Sat Dec 06, 2008 7:15 pm

thechadz03 wrote:Does anyone find it strange that nearly all these old MIJ guitars seem to be sold overseas rather than at home?

the larger market for the MIJ guitars is not within Japan but is rather outside of Japan

the market for guitars within Japan is USA made guitars; Gibson, Fender, Martin, etc. .............
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