Pretty sure it's an st70?

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Mehu80

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I've bought this tokai about 15 years ago and have always been proud how it compares to similar strats. I only recently started wonder what it's origins are. First, here's a few pictures. If dated it correctly, it's a '84 st70. There isn't a sticker on the neck but the serial number has 6 digits. Can anyone confirm if this is a correct dating?

I'm just wondering if there's anything special to it? All I know is that it plays beautifully and I wouldn't trade it cheap. I'm just curious about what it's value is, a rough estimate.
 
What are the numbers in the control cavity and the end of the Neck Butt??
What is stamped on the back of the pickups?
 
Sorry, I had really good offer and I'm selling it tomorrow so I'm not going to dismantle it. Going for a Les Paul soon. :D
 
Mehu80 said:
Sorry, I had really good offer and I'm selling it tomorrow so I'm not going to dismantle it. Going for a Les Paul soon. :D
Your going for a Real Guitar you mean?
 
Nothing wrong with the strat, I really liked it. You could make girls weep all night with it's sweet sound but the requirements of my current musical career are calling for a Les Paul. I bought it in '94 as a young boy and it cost the equivalent of ~150? in finnish marks. Sold it in two hours after I posted an ad on the net, here in Finland, and it went for 500?, so not a bad deal.
 
There wasn't a Goldstar ST70 as far as I know. I assume it's an ST50.

Should be an L serial number though.

Mike
 
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ST-70 in Goldstar were only made with laminated maole boards - no rosewood. Only ST-70 in Springy had rosewwod boards and they were slab.

Could be ST-40. 6 digit number and all . . .

regards
Peter Mac
 
Could be ST-40. 6 digit number and all

Peter--with all respect, I don't think it could possibly be a TST-40--look at the tuners! TST-40s had a lower range of (non-Kluson type) tuners, and ceramic pickups (flat pole magnets), and I believe the pickups on these look like they're alnico (staggered pole).

It would have been instructive to know which model pickups were inside--that might determine the difference between TST-50 and TST-60, but I don't see any evidence to support it being a TST-70 (was there even such a thing?--not present in catalogues). I think I'm with stratman in assuming TST-50, or more likely TST-55 given it's a custom colour and present in the catalogues.
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Yeah I was just going to correct myself - the colour means it would be an ST55. I don't understand why anyone would think it was a 40 or a 70.
 
Yep, sure have, and it still has the sticker on it as well..... :wink:
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Mick
 
But that's a Springy, of course. Doesn't mean there was a Goldstar ST70 - there's no mention of an ST70 in the 1985 catalogue.
 
I also have a Goldie that has a 6-digit serial, and therefore according to the identification guide would be an ST-70, but it is clearly an ST-50, going by the spec:

Black finish
Veneer type RWB
3-pc body
Final Prospec saddles, STB & deluxe tuners
"II V" (Vintage II) pickups

Nothing here to suggest anything other than a stock ST-50, except, of course, the 6-digit serial on the neckplate. Probably another case of Tokai using up spare neckplates, or just running out of L-stamped ones during a production run (did somebody suggest this earlier, or was that in a different thread?).

I suppose this adds a bit of curiosity value to the guitar, but no material value - it's an ST-50 by spec.

I'm thinking about selling it at the moment, and if I do, I won't be advertising it as an ST-70, though I'm sure some sellers would! :wink:
 
blake375 said:
Probably another case of Tokai using up spare neckplates, or just running out of L-stamped ones during a production run (did somebody suggest this earlier, or was that in a different thread?).

I have seen a few RW board Goldies for sale with 6 digit serials, but that otherwise looked like ordinary ST50s. Since serial numbers were just decoration on Goldies (i.e. they didnt help to date them) I don't imagine that Tokai would have worried too much if a few RW ones went out without an L number.
 

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