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Schocker
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PostPosted: Tue May 06, 2008 5:27 am    Post subject: Japanese sources for Tokai? Reply with quote

Now that Ishibashi has stopped carrying Tokai, where can one acquire them from Japan as an international customer?

Your suggestions would be appreciated (by me, although I can't speak for my missus! ).
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PostPosted: Tue May 06, 2008 5:31 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'm sure tokaijoe (forum member -not sure if spelled right) can lead you in the right direction.
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PostPosted: Tue May 06, 2008 6:20 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Very respectable dealer

http://stores.ebay.com.au/MIJ-Guitar-HISASHI
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PostPosted: Tue May 06, 2008 7:11 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Very respectable dealer

http://stores.ebay.com.au/MIJ-Guitar-HISASHI


And single-handedly representing the cause of new Tokais on eBay most of the time, it would seem.

I should clarify that I'm excluding UK dealers due to that small but off-putting matter of the the headstock 'bump'.

It's a shame that Ishibashi stopped offering Tokais; the service was good and the 20% discount generally covered the shipping cost!

Thanks for the replies so far.
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PostPosted: Tue May 06, 2008 10:38 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Why did Ishibashi stop selling Tokais?

Mike
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PostPosted: Tue May 06, 2008 11:00 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

stratman323 wrote:
Why did Ishibashi stop selling Tokais?

Mike


I read something here about quality issues: http://www.thegearpage.net/board/showthread.php?p=3902095

5th and 8th post.
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PostPosted: Tue May 06, 2008 2:37 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Quality issues with Tokai? That's a new one on me.

Mind you, I suppose this isn't the place to hear bad things about Tokai!
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PostPosted: Tue May 06, 2008 5:26 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Schocker wrote:
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I should clarify that I'm excluding UK dealers due to that small but off-putting matter of the the headstock 'bump'.


It's not just the bump - it's the exchange rate of the dollar to the Pound Sterling (approx 2 to one) and the Euro.
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PostPosted: Wed May 07, 2008 1:11 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

stratman323 wrote:
Quality issues with Tokai? That's a new one on me.

Mind you, I suppose this isn't the place to hear bad things about Tokai!


That's true But one have to keep an open mind. It is a bit sad though.
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PostPosted: Wed May 07, 2008 3:02 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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It's not just the bump - it's the exchange rate of the dollar to the Pound Sterling (approx 2 to one) and the Euro.


Another very good point. The strength of the pound to the dollar isn't quite as favourable to us in the UK as it was recently but it's still a decent incentive.

The pound:Japanese yen rate is still good but first you've got to find a seller using that currency!

At least the UK dealers seem to have found the cases which used to be absent when Tokais were sold over here. Unbelievable practice that was...selling a Tokai for well over ?700 and not supplying a hard case.

So, to recap...Hisashi is still the only source we've established in Japan at the moment. Any others?
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PostPosted: Wed May 07, 2008 5:39 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Schocker wrote:
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So, to recap...Hisashi is still the only source we've established in Japan at the moment. Any others?


Have a look on ebay. There are other long time Japanese sellers (many whom I've bought from) there:

mijsixtringkatana
bluzey_guitars
guitarspazz7 (who has a nice Mosrite Japan up for sale)
koiz-guitar (his prices are absurd but he gets some nice guitars)
seikosuru2003
guitargai (here in the US but he gets killer guitars)

If you're looking for dealers who will sell direct, that's another list.
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PostPosted: Wed May 07, 2008 5:56 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Schocker wrote:
So, to recap...Hisashi is still the only source we've established in Japan at the moment. Any others?


These "japanese shops" threads usually are quite unsuccesful Most of the time arise the very same shops and those shops have no stock or don't have what you want.

bart wrote:
stratman323 wrote:
Why did Ishibashi stop selling Tokais?

Mike


I read something here about quality issues: http://www.thegearpage.net/board/showthread.php?p=3902095

5th and 8th post.


There were some quality issues and b-stock buzzes but I think the main reason for dropping Tokai is that selling Tokai is quite difficult for a shop.

When I ordered my ls85f from Ishibashi I had to pay and then wait for three months. I tried to order an SG from Isashi but he told that he couldn't order the model I wanted until the next year . This thing for a shop is probably absolutely unoperative.

I'm interested in ordering a high end model and a walnut sg but it is impossible to find any dealer. Besides, I can't purchase in a rush, I need to plan ahead and to know where, when and the final price.


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PostPosted: Wed May 07, 2008 6:19 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

There's a guy called chingo who seems to sell a lot of second-hand Tokais on eBay. My Silver Star came from him, via a guy in the UK who bought it from chingo.
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PostPosted: Wed May 07, 2008 7:17 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Have a look on ebay. There are other long time Japanese sellers (many whom I've bought from) there


Cheers, I'll keep looking there. Although I seem to be spending quite a lot of time eBaying Tokai and MIJ guitars as it is!

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These "japanese shops" threads usually are quite unsuccesful Most of the time arise the very same shops and those shops have no stock or don't have what you want.


They seem to occur on a reasonably regular basis, I know. I guess it's when I want something that suddenly I get especially curious again! Certainly finding links that are still live/current and relevant to what I'm after is proving more difficult than a couple of years back.

Discerning what models have what numbers is reminding me how time flies (or is that the prices are just going up more frequently?!). The equivalent of me ES-100 was an ES-110 not so long ago, now it seems to be an ES-125. Wasn't the ES-125 a block inlay version of the ES-120 only recently? Or was that the ES-130?

I'll get my coat...
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Schocker
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PostPosted: Wed May 07, 2008 7:18 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Have a look on ebay. There are other long time Japanese sellers (many whom I've bought from) there


Cheers, I'll keep looking there. Although I seem to be spending quite a lot of time eBaying Tokai and MIJ guitars as it is!

Quote:
These "japanese shops" threads usually are quite unsuccesful Most of the time arise the very same shops and those shops have no stock or don't have what you want.


They seem to occur on a reasonably regular basis, I know. I guess it's when I want something that suddenly I get especially curious again! Certainly finding links that are still live/current and relevant to what I'm after is proving more difficult than a couple of years back.

Discerning what models have what numbers is reminding me how time flies (or is that the prices are just going up more frequently?!). The equivalent of me ES-100 was an ES-110 not so long ago, now it seems to be an ES-125. Wasn't the ES-125 a block inlay version of the ES-120 only recently? Or was that the ES-130?

I'll get my coat...
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