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junghans
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PostPosted: Sun Feb 17, 2008 3:55 pm    Post subject: how 'bout this one ? Reply with quote

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PostPosted: Sun Feb 17, 2008 5:03 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Strange, what sort of Tele is it? If it's a Standard the pickups are different to the vintage type on a Breezy, I assume.

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junghans
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PostPosted: Sun Feb 17, 2008 5:23 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

It's a 2007 Highway One Tele. Maybe it has a better standard shielding or the pickguard is made of a different material. I tested both guitars with exactly the same setup, where the breezy gave the static and the Tele didn't.

Since the Tokai are such good copies i guess the original tele had the same problem.
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junghans
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PostPosted: Sun Feb 17, 2008 5:26 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

BTW.... it's not the pickups!
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PostPosted: Sun Feb 17, 2008 8:32 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

That's a somewhat common problem with unshielded or partially shielded pickguards on Fender-style guitars. It's kind of random -- you can have two identical guitars and one may do it but not the other. Applying grounded shielding to the back of the guard drains off the static electricity. (Most Gibson-style guitars have braided grounds as part of the pickup wire and seem to be immune to pickguard induced static.)

The other cure will sound goofy, but a lot of people swear it works. You can rub the guard with a laundry anti-static sheet -- the type you throw into the clothes dryer when you're drying a load of laundry ("Bounce" and "Cling-Free" are common brands). Some people stuff one of the sheets under the guard in the pickup or control cavity. Rubbing the guard is a temporary solution -- eventually the crackle noise will reappear. Stuffing an anti-static sheet under the guard works longer.

The folks over on the Fender Discussion Page have been talking about the problem for years and that's where I've read about using the anti-static sheets. But copper or aluminum foil on the guard connected to ground is the permanent cure.

Many Strats have a small patch of foil on the guard covering just the control cavity and still have the static problem because the areas around the pickups and over the pickup wires aren't shielded and need to have the whole guard backed with foil to stop the static buildup (which also cuts down RF/EMF noise tremendously). But obviously the partial shield on your Tele was sufficient in your case.

Personally, I wouldn't use anti-static sheets if the finish was nitro lacquer. Too many innocuous things react with nitro for me to feel comfortable taking a shortcut like that when I know metal shielding would be safe. But polyester, polyurethane, and conversion-varnish finishes are pretty inert and indestructible.
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PostPosted: Mon Feb 18, 2008 4:50 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Well I know the pickups are different on a Highway One Tele compared to a Tokai, which has more vintage-correct pickups. As for nitro or poly, the Breezy will be poly, but the Highway One is a strange creature - the body is nitro, but the neck is poly - why would anyone do that? I could understand poly on the body (to resist knocks) and nitro on the neck (for the feel), but Fender seem to have made a strange choice here.
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PostPosted: Mon Feb 18, 2008 8:07 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

The discussion is going off-topic this way, but OK. They put nitro on the body because it gives a more vintage appearance. Furthermore it is more easily damaged, which is evidently a plus these days. Unless your guitar looks like Rory Gallagher's you're square. With the neck they obviously let durability and playability prevail over the current vintage hype.
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