As posted by informerr on HC.
Ladies and gentlemen, please take note that informerr is a "new" member with 2 posts. Additionally, please note the punctuation. The absence of any upper case letters, in particular, at the beginning of a sentence.
so a major worldwide respected dealer drops tokai and advises customers to basically stay away until tokai sorts their stuff out. tokai did not listen to the many calls by them and kept on sending them guitars with defects. tokai sent the guitars back and had to tell the customers to wait longer. then finally they get a guitar with no issues which they send to the customers. but now ishibashi is fed up and drops them.
whats going on?
also check these threads:
http://www.tokaiforum.com/viewtopic.php?t=5954
http://www.tokaiforum.com/viewtopic.php?t=6043
http://www.tokaiforum.com/viewtopic.php?t=6012
and:-
dont have a tokai, thats not me lol.
onbongos, i wanted to make that accurate gibson copy joke man, you stole my light
The above are from HC.
Let me also draw your attention to the following posts here:-
nice excuses guitarslinger, i'm sure some guys will eat that. you quoted at least 80 pounds/147 dollars/117 euros more. like someone said, before trying to convince some customers to buy from you, make sure the figures you give them are correct, is that so much to ask? you confessed that you didn't do your job properly by rushing and checking 1 online shop. the prices were not in japanese, just your avergae western numbers, so that excuse is also laughable.so does this mean that you will sell the lc85 for 470 pounds instead of the 579 you ask now on your site i noticed? 470 pounds is what it would cost if you bought from japan, taxes and shipping included and you said you would match the quoted prices. or was this another lie?
and:-
gibson needed a slap in the face for all their policies of late and prs proudly gave them one, youre all welcome
this:-
well said sgrocks. exactly my views. i have seen many silly remarks here directed against people who have a right to speak too. very biased orthodox forum from what i have seen in the last few weeks.
then this:-
supreme, i've been following this from the seymour duncan messageboard and first it sucks to get treated like that. second it sucks that some biased people here have attacked you in other threads, just silly. third, buy a prs and no issues at all
more:-
well jokov, as long as you don't post high detailed pics, the name of the dealer so i can call him, i'm gonna say you are displaying bullsh1t from the cheapest barn in finland
more again:-
i'm and american in germany, dusseldorf, close to the center. my email is [email protected]. name me the prs dealer who was selling 4 prs guitars with ruined necks, i wanna call the guy. also give me your name so i can tell him you discovered all this in his shop. you still sound like you display bullsh1t from the cheapest barn in finland,don't start crying
and finally:-
this has got to be the most biased forum on the net. of course someone can talk about a guitar with issues, what's wrong with you all. you even surpassed the gibson nutters as far as i can read here. if a dealer like ishibashi dropped prs, i would definitely take it seriously instead of attacking the ones who got burnt already.
Allow me to, with respect to the above, suggest that it may not be outside the realms of possibility that the keyboard used by two completely different people to type all the above posts are missing both "Shift" keys.
Or, would it be plausible to conclude that it is actually the very same person that has posted all of the above posts?
Or, alternatively, are these simply coincidences with absolutely no connection whatsoever?
With the recent flurry of posts about various issues, it seems that some folk like to "kick a man while he is down".
In the fullness of time, all the facts will be seen and common sense will prevail. In the meantime, we seem to be going around and around in circles and not getting any result apart from evoking emotions that, are of no benefit to anybody.
I am saying we need to "separate the wheat from the chaff" and not play "tit for tat" games.
Perhaps my post here perpetuates this. I am not looking for responses, simply asking ourselves to look at how easy it is to lower ourselves to a level, that quite frankly, I believe members of this forum are above.
Peter