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CAN U GET A TOKAI les paul JUNIOR type guitar
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humpy
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PostPosted: Mon Jul 01, 2002 9:49 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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humpy
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PostPosted: Mon Jul 01, 2002 9:51 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ok then lads--- i can get a tokai for say ?550 or a gibson junior (the real thing for ?600 with a gig bag! NOW i cant see tat the percieved value of a tokai can be that of a gibson--- they are taking the p1$$. ?50 here nor there is nothing but to compare USA and jap cant result in just ?50 now can it?
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TommyR
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PostPosted: Mon Jul 01, 2002 2:16 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I think I've had a gripe about dealer pricing in the UK before. The difference in rrp price between a ls-65 and ls-70 is Yen 5,000. This is about ?30. The dealers though feel it justified to accelerate this price difference by ?150 when the guitars land in the UK. Therefore the ls-65 is marked up at ?599 and the ls-70 at ?749. It would not be difficult for an individual to order the ls-65 or 70 (or a Love Rock 'junior') from a Japanese retailer with a Tokai hardshell case and get away with the complete outfit for less than ?650 including postage and importation taxes. Dealers are there to take a profit too as any business is entitled to do but the price differences in the UK seem pretty hard to justify.
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guitarboy
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PostPosted: Tue Jul 02, 2002 5:42 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Humpy,

I guess I was more focused on Love Rock's and ES' rather than the junior when posting my comments.

I agree that the differential between the Junior and LR seems a bit odd to say the least.

However w.r.t UK pricing I still say that dealers are pricing them according to the quality of the instrument.

What you have to consider is that Tokai's are Gibson LP standard quality at Epiphone prices.

Dealers are looking at that ?1.5k Gibson or ?2k PRS and then at that ?400 Tokai and they *know* that even at ?800 the buyer is still getting a 'good deal', so up goes the price.

As with all things in this capitalist world something is only worth what people are willing to pay for it, Tokai's are going out of the shops faster than the distributor can import them, so from their perspective the pricing appears about right.

Lower prices - I wish - then I could get a couple more at least!

GB
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PostPosted: Tue Jul 02, 2002 11:34 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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guitarboy
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PostPosted: Wed Jul 03, 2002 5:16 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Barry,

Back to guitars - do you know if anybody importing the LS200 or LS320?
The UK importer doesn't seem to be bothered with them.

Why not start your grey import there I'd have one!



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Dana
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PostPosted: Thu Jul 04, 2002 7:36 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I live in Japan and can send a guitar to the states via USPS for $75 compared to the UPS or other companies that want $200+ (and other fees or dues).

I would be happy to send a guitar to the states if anyone wants. Not sure how much it would be to ship to UK from here.

email me at backyardbullet@hotmail.com and we can work something out.


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goddardo
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PostPosted: Sat Jul 06, 2002 8:01 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hi.
I was in London buying a LP 3 months back and saw that Tokai TV Jnr in Andy's.I could have bought it for ?499.I think it's a case of, if you show them the dosh, then you can haggle.I bought one in Manchester prior to my London trip, used for ?330. It had an unusually high action, but after a different bridge, it improved somewhat + the P90 was sunken into the body by 2-3mm. I later learned that it had an incorrect neck angle and that the P90 was sunk in to avoid string contact,It still played nicely though, and had a superb sound. I had a 1959 LP TV jnr a few years back. Main difference's, the 59 was lighter, had a thicker neck, and a much hotter P90, but the Tokai does a good take on it. My only grunt is that the finish is to thick and plasticy, like it's been dipped in yellow slime. I recently sold mine cheap, but would still fancy one that's correct.Other quality options would be the Hamer P90 Special.?400-500, or the 70's lawsuit fixed neck Antoria's, Ibanez's or CSL's.I have a cherry fixed neck 70's Antoria SG Junior, currently set up for slide and it's a killer replica.
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