Peavey Classic 30

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Peavey Classic 30

Post by goddardo » Fri Nov 11, 2005 5:46 pm

Hi.

Just wondering what you guys think of this amp. Is it reliable ???
I borrowed one for a gig off our vocalist when my own amp went down & I thought it sounded great, but possibly lacked the ruggedness of a regular gigging amp. I've read mixed reveiws & those exposed valves. What were they thinking of ??

Toot toot S :P

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Post by guywithguitar » Sun Nov 13, 2005 10:58 am

Goddardo,

I have its big brother the C50. I hadn't had mine very long before the output transformer blew and had to be replaced. Since then, it's been a workhorse. No further complaints here, great sound, love it.

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Post by tokaiguy » Sat Nov 26, 2005 9:52 am

:o I bought one of the first generation Peavy Classic 50 4x10 when they hit the streets after reading a review in the British magazine Guitar. Of the seven amps I have it has been maintinance free. A great amp with fantastic tone and durability. I played a friends Classic 30 and loved it! The Peavy was my gigging amp until my love affair with a Line6 Duotone started!! Two things I never thought an amp snob like myself would ever do...Love a Peavy and then be seduced by anything without tubes! Another really great amp is the Crate V50, I heard Billy Gibbons in a club earlier this year play thru one, he now tours with a wall of them! :wink: TG

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Post by brad347 » Sat Nov 26, 2005 10:42 am

I respectfully disagree with virtually everything on this thread! :o

I have no use for the peaveys. I had a buddy that used one (despite its inferior tone IMO) and it let him down BIG TIME on a two separate occasions. I have a '68 Twin Reverb and a '65 Deluxe (no verb) and both have served me well and never gone down. We are both full-time pro players with similar workloads. Granted the vintage Fenders are more expensive than the Peavey but worth their weight in gold and they won't go down on ya. If they do, you can open 'em up and fix 'em yourself... 60s Fender amps are like 60s chevys. Pop the hood and the problem is usually obvious. The money you'll save on repairs would probably buy you 10 peaveys by the end of your (or the amps) career.

Also, Line 6.... ??

No thanks buddy. For some reasons owner of small-budget studios think that if they have these for session work, then they have "all the amps."

I've used a couple of Line 6 in such studios on jingles, commercials etc. and for that it'll do the job but I would never take one on a gig. Just my personal preference. The popularity these things enjoy is inscrutable to me.

I'm not trying to bad-mouth your amps, I'm just saying that they're not for me, and I want to represent the other side of the argument for our friend here.

If cost is an issue, buy a 90s Fender Pro Jr. for about $250 US and be done with it. 15 watts class A thru 2 EL84s (like an AC15) and this thing packs quite a punch for its size! Loud enough for many gigs! It will be similar in volume to the classic 30. Not sure about reliability on the pro jr.

I WILL say, that with any tube amp, the components with the biggest effect on sound, in descending order, are: 1)Tubes 2)Speaker 3)Output Transformer

Tubes are easy to replace. Get a Mullard 12AX7 and put it in the first preamp slot, and some good NOS power tubes, and you're well on your way. A good weber speaker will take you to the next level. If your OT sounds like crap (as the Peavey ones do, IMO) replace it with Mercury Magnetics interleaved transformer and then you'll have a nice little amp.

But for that money, you could've just bought a better amp! Cheers.

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Post by tokaiguy » Sat Nov 26, 2005 11:10 am

:o We are taking about an inexspenve tool! I don't want to take my Kendrick Texas Crude or 65'Super Reverb to a club, an alternative to this would be an easily replacable amp thats dependable and covers the need. I will agree that my impression of Peavy was crap, until they came out with these Classic versions. Nothings like the tone of these vintage amps thats why I keep them at home in the studio. I spent a long time lugging a Marshall Plexi and 4x12 cab around and I don't need the workout of the AC30 anymore ...but for what these newer amps are they're pretty damn good at doing what they do. The opinion and the asshole example aside, there are people out there that think that Tokai is Jap Junk...I saw Clapton in a club make a crappy 70's SG thru a Magnatone sound like heaven ...
were not talking about "The Ultimate Tone Machine " just a solid working peice of gear. TG 8)

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Post by tokaiguy » Sat Nov 26, 2005 11:16 am

:o Regarding the Pro Junior , I bought one back in the mid 90's and for a bare bones little tweed covered amp there isn't a better amp to be found. We A/B'd it with a little Victoria boutique and a 15 watt Kendrick and for the "Money Spent" I had to go with the little Pro, also troble free all these years! :wink: TG

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Post by brad347 » Sat Nov 26, 2005 11:41 am

I see. Well, my money still isn't on the Peavey, or the Line 6. I also don't have any problem taking my vintage amps out for gigs (or my vintage guitars for that matter). It's what they're made for. Now flying on a plane or something, I'll leave my Fenders at home and take the Tokai.

My money also isn't on the new fender amps, except for the 90s pro jr. (they make the pro jr. a little differently now). I happen to have some NOS mullard EL84s... I'm waiting for the right moment to put them in the pro jr. As protective as you are of your vintage/boutique amps, I am of my NOS tubes!

Good working amps for low $$$ are hard to come by, sometimes you really do get what you pay for. I'll point out that I think the magnatone is a great amp, I'm not surprised that Clapton got a good sound out of it. I had one for a long time.

There are plenty of affordable vintage amps. 60s and 70s Ampeg amps sound much better than most of the stuff out there today, and can still be had for reasonable $$$, and you'd do better with one of those than with a new Peavey. What Guild was to guitars, Ampeg was to amps.

We can agree that the Classic series was better than most other Peaveys. I just don't think they're very good. Perhaps I'm just too snobby.

I don't understand what you were referring to with the "asshole example" comment, I sure hope I didn't come across that way.

Oh yeah, another great amp for low $$$ is the old Silvertone Twin Twelve and others in that series. These things are killin'

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Post by tokaiguy » Sat Nov 26, 2005 12:43 pm

:D "Assholes are like opinions ...Everyones got one!" Regarding amps of great tone, In 65' I bought and still have an Ampeg Reverberocket 2 with a 12' Jenson paid $125! The worst sounding amp I have is a pristine Vox Berkley with chrome stand {a Thomas Vox } absolutly no tone at all. But plug into the Pod and line out to the amp and it sounds as good as it looks! Gerald Weber of Kendrick does all of my amp tweaking so I leave the tech to him. If you get a chance to play a Kendrick I think you'll be impressed. The Silvertone piggy back 2x12' was a good one too, I blew my cousins up back in the early 60's, to get distortion we used a Wollensak reel to reel as a pre-amp ...you got a great "I Can See For Miles"rumble but the amps never held up for vey long!! I still have my 63' Premier reverb tank! Nothing wrong with being a snob, Ya can't help being better than most everyone! :lol: TG

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Post by brad347 » Sat Nov 26, 2005 2:43 pm

I've used Kendrick amps. My opinion of them is that they sound like "real" amps, way better than most anything out there, but there's something about the old Fenders that I still prefer. You can't build "old" into an amplifier.

It's a mystery.

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Post by brad347 » Sat Nov 26, 2005 2:46 pm

I've never had Weber work on my stuff, but have you tried that guy out in Garland, Craig Wallace? He's sort of word-of-mouth only, works out of his house... works on a lot of the big names' stuff. He breathed new life into my '65 Deluxe... now that I live on the east coast I still think about sending my amps back to him for service. I'm waiting to find 'the guy' up here in NYC.

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Post by tokaiguy » Sat Nov 26, 2005 3:46 pm

:D I have'nt seen Craig in a long time! He ia a great player and used to play the Lower Greenville Clubs back in the 80's. A Tokai endorsee and a great guy. He was in Mike Varneys Guitar Player section years ago. Is that his main gig now ? Does he still play? Small World. I have a leather covered Kendrick Texas Crude that is the Tone Monster. But I have to agree, they all wanna be like the 65' Super Reverb...If I could only have one That's It! TG :o

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Post by tokaiguy » Sat Nov 26, 2005 3:47 pm

:D I have'nt seen Craig in a long time! He ia a great player and used to play the Lower Greenville Clubs back in the 80's. A Tokai endorsee and a great guy. He was in Mike Varneys Guitar Player section years ago. Is that his main gig now ? Does he still play? Small World. I have a leather covered Kendrick Texas Crude that is the Tone Monster. But I have to agree, they all wanna be like the 65' Super Reverb...If I could only have one That's It! TG :o

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Post by brad347 » Sat Nov 26, 2005 4:16 pm

Didn't know he was a Tokai endorsee. I don't know if he still plays or not. I DO know that he's a hell of an amp tech and very knowledgeable about Fender amps. Never heard him play except when he was playing through my amp to try it out.

Small world, indeed. I wish I knew where I put his phone #, I could give it to you but I misplaced it. I do have his email address, if you want it you can PM me.

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advice?

Post by fenderhss » Wed Dec 14, 2005 11:56 pm

Hi guys

you guys seem like a very experienced bunch.

I'm really just a beginner.

got any advice on a practice amp? mainly 15-30 watts (compact and versatile)

and also any advice on a gig worthy tube amp? I'm looking at a
Peavey Classic 30 amp right now... is this the best amp I can get in that price range?

please help..

thanks

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Post by brad347 » Thu Dec 15, 2005 1:21 am

90s Fender pro jr. is both! get one!

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