Help me identify this model - possible fake tokai

helixmendes · Post by **helixmendes** » Wed Jun 06, 2018 4:51 pm

Hi.
I was searching for a semi hollow body guitar, and I found online this weird (I guess) tokai model.

https://m.olx.pt/anuncio/tokai-es-160-c ... n=5&page=1

The seller claims is a mij tokai es160. I can tell just by the truss rod cover or isn't. Also, it has block inlay, in the first fret.
Can you help me identify this model? What about its value ? Could it be a real 160 Korean or China model?

Thanks very much
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brokentoes · Post by **brokentoes** » Wed Jun 06, 2018 7:03 pm

Looks really fake in so many ways i would hate to start counting them.

Avoid
at
all
costs

helixmendes · Post by **helixmendes** » Thu Jun 07, 2018 12:51 am

You mean like a fake tokai? (Aliexpress)? I know heritage series may look like this one, but just can't find information about it

Paladin2019 · Post by **Paladin2019** » Thu Jun 07, 2018 2:11 am

That is a shocking example of fakery and fraud. There isn't even a picture of the headstock logo, just a picture of a sticker! It probably doesn't even say tokai on there. Nothing about this guitar is legit which is why there's no information anywhere.

The guitar is fake and the seller knows it. Avoid.

helixmendes · Post by **helixmendes** » Thu Jun 07, 2018 10:08 am

It ringed a lot of bells. Although I'm not a tokai expert,I knew it wouldn't be a Japanese model. The seller Is trying to deal well below the price. What's the value of a guitar like that? What's the origin? Is it aliexpress like,or Canadian fake like?

Paladin2019 · Post by **Paladin2019** » Thu Jun 07, 2018 10:41 am

helixmendes wrote:It ringed a lot of bells. Although I'm not a tokai expert,I knew it wouldn't be a Japanese model. The seller Is trying to deal well below the price. What's the value of a guitar like that? What's the origin? Is it aliexpress like,or Canadian fake like?

It's hard to get tell because the seller is being deliberately deceptive. I would guess a cheap Chinese no-name that's been re-badged. Don't take the risk. It's a foolish purchase at any price.

felixcatus · Post by **felixcatus** » Thu Jun 07, 2018 10:50 am

helixmendes wrote:It ringed a lot of bells. Although I'm not a tokai expert,I knew it wouldn't be a Japanese model. The seller Is trying to deal well below the price. What's the value of a guitar like that? What's the origin? Is it aliexpress like,or Canadian fake like?

Naught, to me it's about integrity.
I wouldn't even consider buying (even if it was a 'great quality, give away priced') fraudulent guitar.

helixmendes · Post by **helixmendes** » Thu Jun 07, 2018 1:52 pm

Thanks for the help guys!
I'll keep on searching.
Cheers!

brokentoes · Post by **brokentoes** » Thu Jun 07, 2018 3:15 pm

Good luck and thanks for coming here before you bought.

bluejeannot · Post by **bluejeannot** » Thu Jun 07, 2018 7:46 pm

https://reverb.com/uk/item/4807416-toka ... though-red This is what the genuine article looks like.