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DanH71
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PostPosted: Tue Jun 13, 2017 4:17 pm    Post subject: eBay fake? Reply with quote

http://m.ebay.co.uk/itm/322520018526?_mwBanner=1

This seems to cheap and I suspect the bridge and headstock with fake detail and wrong shape means this isn't a Tokai?

Please advise
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PostPosted: Tue Jun 13, 2017 5:26 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Made in China,budget line ,low quality.
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PostPosted: Wed Jun 14, 2017 12:09 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

bluejeannot wrote:
Made in China,budget line ,low quality.


So is my guitar in the photos cheap low line quality Chinese or the eBay one, or both?

A little more detail would be appreciated.

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PostPosted: Wed Jun 14, 2017 1:33 am    Post subject: Re: eBay fake? Reply with quote

DanH71 wrote:
..... this isn't a Tokai?

Please advise
Thanks
Dan


It is a lousy FAKAI.
Be aware!
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PostPosted: Wed Jun 14, 2017 1:37 am    Post subject: Re: eBay fake? Reply with quote

togps wrote:
DanH71 wrote:
..... this isn't a Tokai?

Please advise
Thanks
Dan


It is a lousy FAKAI.
Be aware!


Why is it Fake-ai?

Again a little more detail other than it is fake would be great.!?
If I approach the seller I must be able to tell him WHY I believe it to be fake..
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PostPosted: Wed Jun 14, 2017 5:05 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

FAKAI is a term applied by some Tokai fans and dealers to bogus/fake Tokais. It was applied firstly to korean made guitars passes ad Hamamatsu Japan made ones but it extended to China ones too. It is not wrong bying a chinese guitar is you know what you want but it is a fake selling a chines guitar showing/passing as japanese ones because the quality is not the same.
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PostPosted: Wed Jun 14, 2017 5:06 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

luis wrote:
FAKAI is a term applied by some Tokai fans and dealers to bogus/fake Tokais. It was applied firstly to korean made guitars passed as Hamamatsu Japan made ones but it extended to China ones too. It is not wrong bying a chinese guitar is you know what you want but it is a fake selling a chines guitar showing/passing as japanese ones because the quality is not the same.
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DanH71
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PostPosted: Wed Jun 14, 2017 6:09 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

luis wrote:
FAKAI is a term applied by some Tokai fans and dealers to bogus/fake Tokais. It was applied firstly to korean made guitars passes ad Hamamatsu Japan made ones but it extended to China ones too. It is not wrong bying a chinese guitar is you know what you want but it is a fake selling a chines guitar showing/passing as japanese ones because the quality is not the same.


Hi and thanks luis.

so sorry for being slow here but the fact that it is a low line Chinese build means its not produced by Tokai but some other company?

Im not at all worried about it being lowline or a copy as my understanding is the Tokai Jazz Basses are exactly that, copies of an original design.

Im trying to clarify whether its a Tokai made cheaply in China OR a jazz bass copy with NO connection with Tokai that is built in China?

Cheers
Dan
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PostPosted: Wed Jun 14, 2017 6:12 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ser. no and headstock logo is not Tokai-like
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PostPosted: Wed Jun 14, 2017 8:42 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

togps wrote:
Ser. no and headstock logo is not Tokai-like


Thanks for the more specific info on why this is a fake Tokai!
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PostPosted: Wed Jun 14, 2017 9:00 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Are you the Ebay seller?
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PostPosted: Wed Jun 14, 2017 9:51 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

togps wrote:
Are you the Ebay seller?


urhhhh NO!

why would you ask that..

May I ask, do you create guitar forgeries with your in-depth knowledge?
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PostPosted: Thu Jun 15, 2017 6:50 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

DanH71 wrote:
togps wrote:
Are you the Ebay seller?



why would you ask that..

May I ask, do you create guitar forgeries with your in-depth knowledge?


He's a long time and well regarded Tokai distributor. Knows a far bit more about the brand than most. Don't get so bent out of shape - you may learn something.
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PostPosted: Thu Jun 15, 2017 7:37 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

marcusnieman wrote:
DanH71 wrote:
togps wrote:
Are you the Ebay seller?



why would you ask that..

May I ask, do you create guitar forgeries with your in-depth knowledge?


He's a long time and well regarded Tokai distributor. Knows a far bit more about the brand than most. Don't get so bent out of shape - you may learn something.


me, Im not bent out of shape. just proposing a similar question that he directed at me. no harm in that is there?
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