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DanH71
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 Posted: Tue Jun 13, 2017 4:17 pm Post subject: eBay fake? |
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http://m.ebay.co.uk/itm/322520018526?_mwBanner=1
This seems to cheap and I suspect the bridge and headstock with fake detail and wrong shape means this isn't a Tokai?
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bluejeannot
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Made in China,budget line ,low quality.
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DanH71
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| Posted: Wed Jun 14, 2017 12:09 am Post subject: |
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| bluejeannot wrote: | | Made in China,budget line ,low quality. |
So is my guitar in the photos cheap low line quality Chinese or the eBay one, or both?
A little more detail would be appreciated.
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togps
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| Posted: Wed Jun 14, 2017 1:33 am Post subject: Re: eBay fake? |
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| DanH71 wrote: | ..... this isn't a Tokai?
Please advise
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It is a lousy FAKAI.
Be aware!
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DanH71
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| Posted: Wed Jun 14, 2017 1:37 am Post subject: Re: eBay fake? |
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| togps wrote: | | DanH71 wrote: | ..... this isn't a Tokai?
Please advise
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Dan |
It is a lousy FAKAI.
Be aware! |
Why is it Fake-ai?
Again a little more detail other than it is fake would be great.!?
If I approach the seller I must be able to tell him WHY I believe it to be fake.. |
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luis
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| Posted: Wed Jun 14, 2017 5:05 am Post subject: |
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| FAKAI is a term applied by some Tokai fans and dealers to bogus/fake Tokais. It was applied firstly to korean made guitars passes ad Hamamatsu Japan made ones but it extended to China ones too. It is not wrong bying a chinese guitar is you know what you want but it is a fake selling a chines guitar showing/passing as japanese ones because the quality is not the same. |
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luis
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| Posted: Wed Jun 14, 2017 5:06 am Post subject: |
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| luis wrote: | | FAKAI is a term applied by some Tokai fans and dealers to bogus/fake Tokais. It was applied firstly to korean made guitars passed as Hamamatsu Japan made ones but it extended to China ones too. It is not wrong bying a chinese guitar is you know what you want but it is a fake selling a chines guitar showing/passing as japanese ones because the quality is not the same. |
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DanH71
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| Posted: Wed Jun 14, 2017 6:09 am Post subject: |
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| luis wrote: | | FAKAI is a term applied by some Tokai fans and dealers to bogus/fake Tokais. It was applied firstly to korean made guitars passes ad Hamamatsu Japan made ones but it extended to China ones too. It is not wrong bying a chinese guitar is you know what you want but it is a fake selling a chines guitar showing/passing as japanese ones because the quality is not the same. |
Hi and thanks luis.
so sorry for being slow here but the fact that it is a low line Chinese build means its not produced by Tokai but some other company?
Im not at all worried about it being lowline or a copy as my understanding is the Tokai Jazz Basses are exactly that, copies of an original design.
Im trying to clarify whether its a Tokai made cheaply in China OR a jazz bass copy with NO connection with Tokai that is built in China?
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togps
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| Posted: Wed Jun 14, 2017 6:12 am Post subject: |
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Ser. no and headstock logo is not Tokai-like
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DanH71
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| Posted: Wed Jun 14, 2017 8:42 am Post subject: |
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| togps wrote: | | Ser. no and headstock logo is not Tokai-like |
Thanks for the more specific info on why this is a fake Tokai! |
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togps
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Are you the Ebay seller?
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DanH71
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| Posted: Wed Jun 14, 2017 9:51 am Post subject: |
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| togps wrote: | | Are you the Ebay seller? |
urhhhh NO!
why would you ask that..
May I ask, do you create guitar forgeries with your in-depth knowledge? |
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marcusnieman
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| DanH71 wrote: | | togps wrote: | | Are you the Ebay seller? |
why would you ask that..
May I ask, do you create guitar forgeries with your in-depth knowledge? |
He's a long time and well regarded Tokai distributor. Knows a far bit more about the brand than most. Don't get so bent out of shape - you may learn something. |
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DanH71
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| Posted: Thu Jun 15, 2017 7:37 am Post subject: |
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| marcusnieman wrote: | | DanH71 wrote: | | togps wrote: | | Are you the Ebay seller? |
why would you ask that..
May I ask, do you create guitar forgeries with your in-depth knowledge? |
He's a long time and well regarded Tokai distributor. Knows a far bit more about the brand than most. Don't get so bent out of shape - you may learn something. |
me, Im not bent out of shape. just proposing a similar question that he directed at me. no harm in that is there? |
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