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Help to dating my Tokai ST80 Springy Sound Red Fiesta
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bassride
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PostPosted: Sun May 14, 2017 12:27 pm    Post subject: Help to dating my Tokai ST80 Springy Sound Red Fiesta Reply with quote

Hello, can you help me for dating my Springy Sound.
The serial number is 8000876.
Thx for you answer








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PostPosted: Sun May 14, 2017 1:05 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Welcome to the forum. I think that's a very early one, the number beginning with the 8 implies '78 I believe... does it have the more narrow neck plate too? Looks sweet!
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PostPosted: Sun May 14, 2017 1:39 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

RyanC wrote:
Welcome to the forum. I think that's a very early one, the number beginning with the 8 implies '78 I believe... does it have the more narrow neck plate too? Looks sweet!

Hello Ryan, thx for your answer. I don't think the neckplate is more narrow.
What you think with this pics?
And you are sur for 78?



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PostPosted: Sun May 14, 2017 1:51 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

RyanC wrote:
Welcome to the forum. I think that's a very early one, the number beginning with the 8 implies '78 I believe... does it have the more narrow neck plate too? Looks sweet!

After observing the neckplate closer and comparing to other, I think it more narrow.
what you think?

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PostPosted: Sun May 14, 2017 1:58 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

looks narrow to me! i'm sure that serial is '78 so that would make yours a very early example, as i believe '78 was the first year of production... also a pretty rare color i believe...
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PostPosted: Sun May 14, 2017 2:59 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I agree, 78 and looks like a v neck too? Nice guitar!!
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PostPosted: Sun May 14, 2017 6:50 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Very nice 78.If it is nitro its an ST80 ,if poly an ST60
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PostPosted: Mon May 15, 2017 1:02 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

bluejeannot wrote:
Very nice 78.If it is nitro its an ST80 ,if poly an ST60


Hello,

Yes she's very nice and in perfect condition!

This is a ST80 because it's write in the neck pocket.

You can see it in this pic.
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PostPosted: Mon May 15, 2017 4:02 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

duff wrote:
I agree, 78 and looks like a v neck too? Nice guitar!!


Yes V neck!
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PostPosted: Mon May 15, 2017 6:59 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

78 - first year issue for Springy's. I have a 78 ST60

The other thing you'll notice, the 78's had a rather sharp, angled contour carve on the front - unlike the more smooth Fender contours and later Springy models. Here's another one from a forum member showing the carve

http://s6.photobucket.com/user/Scotty111/media/T2eC16RyME9s5qHeZBQMF1EgUg60_3.jpg.html
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PostPosted: Fri May 19, 2017 6:31 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

bassride wrote:
RyanC wrote:
Welcome to the forum. I think that's a very early one, the number beginning with the 8 implies '78 I believe... does it have the more narrow neck plate too? Looks sweet!

After observing the neckplate closer and comparing to other, I think it more narrow.
what you think?



Narrow plate measurements;

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PostPosted: Fri May 19, 2017 6:56 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Nice!

I always identified my 78 narrow plate as being too narrow to stamp in the serial number between the top two screws - compared to the standard plate size.
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PostPosted: Fri Jun 30, 2017 10:41 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

hi everibody, Im back for one question.

There is written "ST80" with Hand and pencil in the neckpocket .
Have you ever seen that?

Are the "V" neck and "E" PU always ST80?
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PostPosted: Fri Jun 30, 2017 3:00 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

no never seen hand written yes v neck and E is always 80..
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PostPosted: Fri Jun 30, 2017 4:47 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

villager wrote:
no never seen hand written yes v neck and E is always 80..


Not sure I can see a lot of ST50 and ST60 with a "E" PU.

For example here :
http://www.tokaiforum.com/viewtopic.php?p=145009&sid=d886f04836267ea6cffd9d7be95ea18e

http://www.tokaiforum.com/viewtopic.php?p=145009&sid=d886f04836267ea6cffd9d7be95ea18e

http://www.music-trade.co.jp/t_80000294carte.html
http://www.music-trade.co.jp/t_80021247carte.html
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