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vaiges
I only know 3 chords


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PostPosted: Sun Jan 29, 2017 11:24 am    Post subject: Reply with quote



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PostPosted: Sun Jan 29, 2017 11:49 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I completely agree with you, bluejeannot: very strange. I'm not 100% sure this is not a Tokai. It would be very weird to make a copy as good as the copy, it doesn't make sense. You would make copies of Gibson, Fender, Gretsch, etc. but not a copy of a copy.

In my opinion, the key to find the origin of this instrument is in the numbers and the Japanese letters on both the neck and the neck pocket.

Right now I'm lost.
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PostPosted: Sun Jan 29, 2017 7:26 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

It would be worth sending extensive photographs to Tokai including the Japanese lettering ,explaining that you are a member of this Forum and asking if they have any knowledge of this bass.My guess on manufacturing date would be about 1976.Tokais began Hard Puncher basses with the logo on your bass in 77/78 I think.Let us know how you get on with Tokai. Good luck!
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PostPosted: Mon Jan 30, 2017 8:28 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yes, we're at a dead end. I will contact both Tokai Japan and Tokai UK and see what they can tell us about it.

Thanks mate. I'll keep you informed.
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PostPosted: Mon Jan 30, 2017 7:18 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Tokai UK are worse than useless,don`t waste your time with them.we know a LOT more about Tokais than they will ever know.
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PostPosted: Wed Feb 01, 2017 4:57 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

We already have an answer from Tokai Japan. They've been really quick. I sent quite a lot of pics and here's their feedback:

As long as I check the pictures, I can say the model is one of our PB series before 1983.
It has 4 screws machine heads, thus it seems PB50/PB60/PB70/PB80.
Color Metallic red is applied for these models, I am afraid it is more than 35 years ago, it is too hard to discern the model.
But I think it is real Tokai.
One concern is that Neck Plate suppose to have Serial No.but I cannot find it out.

Japanese letter express the color, others could be some kind of lot No.
I hope the info helps you.

Best regards
Tokai Gakki



Negative: they don't know the model or year of production
Positive: they admit it's a Tokai
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PostPosted: Wed Feb 01, 2017 12:38 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

YES!!!!!!! congratulations!You have the rarest Tokai bass in the world!
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PostPosted: Wed Feb 01, 2017 12:54 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

This is a very early Tokai almost a prototype. 1977 I would guess.Its unique
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PostPosted: Wed Feb 01, 2017 1:38 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thanks for your help.

I'm quite happy about it. The truth is that the possibility it was a prototype crossed my mind several times. I couldn't find anything on the internet which was similar. And as I said, it doesn't make sense to make a copy of a copy.

To be honest, the bass sounds spectacular. It really reminds of old Fender PBs. It's probably similar I've ever listened to. Its action is not so spectacular. I think I'm going to shim it to make more playable, as it has a very high action. However, I'm not going to make any mods on it. I want it to stay like this for the eternity.

As soon as I have some sound tests, I'll return and share them with you.
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PostPosted: Wed Feb 01, 2017 1:41 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Congratulations again!
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PostPosted: Wed Feb 01, 2017 2:10 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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PostPosted: Thu Feb 02, 2017 1:29 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

It's really special this bass of yours. It has a very interesting and curious history. I guess CS stands for Custom Shop. Mine isn't CS. It looks like some sort of experiment.
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PostPosted: Thu Feb 02, 2017 2:41 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

By the way, my bass teacher has a 1984 Ibanez Roadstar RB630. We compared them 3 days ago. It has very similar (if not the same) tuning pegs as my Tokai "Precision". Interesting, isn't it?
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PostPosted: Thu Feb 02, 2017 8:06 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

vaiges wrote:
It's really special this bass of yours. It has a very interesting and curious history. I guess CS stands for Custom Shop. Mine isn't CS. It looks like some sort of experiment.
Whoops should have written AS Amber Sunburst.
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PostPosted: Sat Feb 11, 2017 7:21 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

This was a nice thread to read as it turned out into a happy ending. Congrats to a very rare bass.
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