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1980 Tokai ST-80
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bluejeannot
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PostPosted: Sat Nov 07, 2015 8:58 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

But the neck is stamped 80 Peter and there is a an A stamp on the pickguard.
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PostPosted: Sat Nov 07, 2015 9:02 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

bluejeannot beat me to it.
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PostPosted: Sat Nov 07, 2015 9:06 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Also a 2 piece body and matching neck and body codes.I would put money on it having a nitro finish too.
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PostPosted: Sun Nov 08, 2015 2:20 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Peter Mac wrote:
Hi guys,

I will add this . .
This guitar is an ST-60, not an ST-80.
The lack of 'A' stamp on both body and neck shows it is not an ST-80.


Now that you mention it, my recently acquired ST80 doesn't have the A stamp on body or pickguard either. I have yet to take the neck of, to see what's written there.
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PostPosted: Sun Nov 08, 2015 4:26 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

looks like an st80 to me..
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PostPosted: Sun Nov 08, 2015 3:57 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hi guys,

thanks fellas, all valid points . . . .however
1) I have had necks that have had a '6' or a '5' faked into an '8'
2) in logging 1,000s of Springys over the years, all the genuine '80's Ive seen have an 'A' on both neck stamp and body stamp.
3) This is particularly true in 1980 where ST-60 and ST-80 share the same body wood and electronics - they did need some way of differentiating them.
This particular guitar has an extremely early serial number - like late '79 - yet the body stamps indicate a later build like March 1980.

Apart from everything else, in luthier terms, this is one of the finest Springys I've seen - that body is perfect. It would sound great and get Les Paul type sustain. It may not have the flash of a flat-sawn body but it is sonically superior.

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PostPosted: Mon Nov 09, 2015 3:00 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Peter Mac wrote:
Hi guys,

I will add this . .
This guitar is an ST-60, not an ST-80.
The lack of 'A' stamp on both body and neck shows it is not an ST-80.



Peter Mac wrote:

I have had necks that have had a '6' or a '5' faked into an '8'
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"80" stamp on the neck looks like original
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PostPosted: Mon Nov 09, 2015 9:41 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Rashe is it a nitro finish?
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PostPosted: Mon Nov 09, 2015 11:43 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

PS rashe, a positive result could be conclusive.
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PostPosted: Mon Nov 09, 2015 1:45 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

felixcatus wrote:
Rashe is it a nitro finish?

How can I check it in right way?
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PostPosted: Mon Nov 09, 2015 2:20 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Nitro feels and react different than poly, but I have never had the need to check it.

This is from what I've read on the forums, "you can check for nitro with a little drop of nail varnish remover (acetone) on a Q tip in a pickup cavity. Nitro will be dissolved by the solvent".
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PostPosted: Mon Nov 09, 2015 2:54 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

felixcatus wrote:
"you can check for nitro with a little drop of nail varnish remover (acetone) on a Q tip in a pickup cavity. Nitro will be dissolved by the solvent".

I took acetone and here is from Tokai (it left mark on pickup cavity)


Then I used it on my black Ibanez JS-100 (not sure about its finish) but here is the result (no marks lefted on body):
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PostPosted: Mon Nov 09, 2015 3:14 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

yeah that's nitro.
st80 imho but what do i know...
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PostPosted: Mon Nov 09, 2015 4:02 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

For me, ST80 it is!
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PostPosted: Wed Nov 11, 2015 6:14 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Me too.ST 80.
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