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hekdiesel
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PostPosted: Thu Oct 09, 2014 5:27 pm    Post subject: New Strat preference. Reply with quote

I am trying to narrow down some choices of stats for a new purchase, I've basically eliminated a new Fender because other than the artist series, they all come with modern C necks, and they feel awful to me, like a toy...

But If money was no object and you were buying a new strat, what would you buy, and why?

Everything matters, craftsmanship, materials, finish options (nitro), hardware. The least important to me is electronics because that is usually the easiest thing to swap.
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PostPosted: Fri Oct 10, 2014 12:01 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

hekdiesel wrote:
I've basically eliminated a new Fender because other than the artist series, they all come with modern C necks, and they feel awful to me, like a toy...

But If money was no object and you were buying a new strat, what would you buy, and why?

Everything matters, craftsmanship, materials, finish options (nitro), hardware.


To meet all your requirements, and because neck shape is the most important factor (to me). I would go for this.
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hekdiesel
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PostPosted: Fri Oct 10, 2014 5:25 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Those Ruokangas are indeed nice, I'm curios to see what other people chime in with.

I've read a lot about Suhr strats and LSL, among a bunch of others, but it's hard getting information on a lot of this.
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PostPosted: Fri Oct 10, 2014 6:38 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Marcus just got a VanZandt. He'll post something at some point. There is a thread in the "Other" section about it.

http://www.tokaiforum.com/viewtopic.php?t=22197
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PostPosted: Fri Oct 10, 2014 7:12 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I have an LSL Saticoy stratocaster which is by far the best stratocaster I have ever played but they do come with a serious price tag. I have a Suhr standard so cant comment on Suhr stratocasters but the build quality is superb on all Suhr guitars. The second hand value of a Suhr will be far higher than the LSL should you ever part with it in the future.

You cant go wrong with either.
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PostPosted: Fri Oct 10, 2014 7:22 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

These guys seems to be enjoying LSL Stratocasters.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WvU3H_kQ0pI
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PostPosted: Fri Oct 10, 2014 7:29 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yeah, the older Van Zandt strat I just got (STV-R1) hasn't left my hands since it arrived a couple of weeks ago. One of the best made, playing and sounding strats I've ever played.

If money were no object, I'd have to go with a Revelator SuperKing strat:

http://www.revelatorguitars.com/

I would have considered a Bill Nash guitar but since he's really starting to mass produce them to sell through dealers, I've heard that the quality is slipping a bit.
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hekdiesel
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PostPosted: Fri Oct 10, 2014 10:24 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I had not heard of Nash until today, those are fairly reasonably priced.
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hekdiesel
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PostPosted: Fri Oct 10, 2014 10:34 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I could do without the relic'ing as well, my outlook is that I want to wear it out myself...
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PostPosted: Fri Oct 10, 2014 11:21 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

If you can find one of these, I'd put them right up with the Fender Custom Shop strats:

http://www.guitarsjapan.com/1991_Japan_Custom_Edition_ST54-128_Stratocaster.html
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hekdiesel
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PostPosted: Fri Oct 10, 2014 3:26 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

That looks amazing.

What about momose strats how do those stack up? I get it by the lack of enthusiasm that the new Tokai strats aren't very impressive. I found a high end shop by me that has Suhr and Anderson strats, the Suhr are pretty amazing, I like the Andersons too but they weren't as impressive as suhr the seemed more modern and didn't have that vintage cibe
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wulfman
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PostPosted: Fri Oct 10, 2014 6:41 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

VanZandt, Navigator and Bacchus would be my choices for strats. Momoses are equally good but the Bacchus is so close in quality that for the cost I don't think it is necessary to go up to a Momose.

Navigator and VanZandt have nitro finishes with the VanZandts having very thin finish. I think that works to their advantage for tone.

After going through several strats I settled on these two:

Bacchus relic (with momose pickups)


VanZandt one-off:
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hekdiesel
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PostPosted: Fri Oct 10, 2014 6:46 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Those two look great as well. If anyone has a contact in japan that deals Vz and Nav/Bacchus please PM me
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PostPosted: Mon Oct 13, 2014 7:51 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Check these two sites frequently and type Vanzandt in as a single word:

http://www.ishibashi.co.jp/u_box/e/ This is their U Box site that sells used guitars. I've purchased several guitars from them including my latest Van Zandt. Hiroaki handles International sales

http://www.ikebe-gakki.com/ec/cmHeaderSearchProduct/doSearchProduct/cmHeader/%20/%20/1?wd=vanzandt&registKeyword=true Ikebe is another good one that sells internationally.
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hekdiesel
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PostPosted: Tue Oct 14, 2014 3:57 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thanks Marcus
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