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Please Help With This Tokai LP Custom.

 
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Lamf77
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PostPosted: Thu Sep 04, 2014 12:03 pm    Post subject: Please Help With This Tokai LP Custom. Reply with quote

Hi,
I am new to this forum.
I just started reading up about Tokai Guitars early this week, when one popped up for sale in my area.
The person selling it says he knows nothing about it, he got it in lieu of cash for a debt awhile back. He said the serial number in the back starts with 11 and is in gold ink.
I am waiting to here from him with the complete serial number.
Any help currently would be great.
Thanks!
Mike

Owner just sent me this..... "11030689".
For the serial number.





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mattim
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PostPosted: Thu Sep 04, 2014 11:38 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hi. throwing the first stone

This guitar does not look good. In my opinion proportions of the head stock and the shape of the control cavity does not belong to a real Tokai. I would not buy this guitar as a genuine Japanese Tokai, which this one tries to pretend.

Matti
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Paladin2019
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PostPosted: Fri Sep 05, 2014 6:17 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Difficult. The pictures are too few and too poor quality to be sure. The bridge looks MIK/MIC but the headstock looks MIJ. Controls are high end but could be aftermarket.

Need more GOOD photos, the bridge and back of headstock especially.

Wouldn't touch this one without more info.

What's the price?
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Lamf77
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PostPosted: Fri Sep 05, 2014 3:58 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

He is asking $650 including case.
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Paladin2019
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PostPosted: Fri Sep 05, 2014 5:44 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

What country?
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Lamf77
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PostPosted: Fri Sep 05, 2014 10:51 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Chicago, IL USA
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PostPosted: Fri Sep 05, 2014 11:10 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

MIC 2011
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Lamf77
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PostPosted: Sat Sep 06, 2014 12:24 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

The seller has relisted his guitar for $200 less. I am sure I was not the only one wondering about its origin. He says is is not China or Korea, yet also not Japanese? I am a newbie, but aren't those the only 3 options?
Here is the link:
http://chicago.craigslist.org/chc/msg/4655202141.html
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CW
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PostPosted: Sat Sep 06, 2014 1:03 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

If it was Chinese, wouldn't it have a three-screw truss rod cover?
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Reborn Old
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PostPosted: Sat Sep 06, 2014 4:56 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

You've already been accurately advised on 2 different forums as to what model it is and when + where it was made.

Tokai base models were only produced in Japan, Korea + China

Korea did not use serial numbers. It's not from Japan either for reasons already stated.
Tokai Japan never used that type of control cavity route ... or 8 digit serial numbers.

In the first post the seller knew nothing about the guitar and yet in the last post he knows it wasn't from any of the 3 countries that produced them ???
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Paladin2019
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PostPosted: Sat Sep 06, 2014 7:55 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Looking at the relisted pictures its definitely not Japanese. Its had some decent mods but the seller is overpricing it.

Hard to tell whether or not he's genuinely clueless.
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wulfman
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PostPosted: Sun Sep 07, 2014 5:08 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Could be a Chinese-made fake Tokai. I imagine there are a few out there.
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Lamf77
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PostPosted: Sun Sep 07, 2014 7:53 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I did post this on 2 forums, and although my initial questions were answered, I posted a "follow-up" because I thought it may be of some interest to the people who replied to my initial post.
The bottom diamond on the headstock seems much closer to the TRC and the swills pattern on the top seems much closer to the tuning pegs than the legit Tokai guitars I have googled searched.
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