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javelin70
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PostPosted: Tue Feb 05, 2002 3:04 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Picked up a TDS-1 Distortion and a TPH-1 Phaser last week. They are surprisingly good! I never tested the Tokai pedals in the 80's except for an analog delay I bought (and unfortunately traded for a digital multi FX unit). I've also bought a TMD-2 Metaldriver and a TOD-2 Overdrive that I will receive any day now. I will get back with a report on how they sound. Apparently the Metaldriver uses the same OP amp (4558) as the legendary Ibanez TS-808 Tube Screamer! However, it's capable of more varied sounds than the Tube Screamer. The newer boxes are made of plastic but the first series are all metal and are really well built.

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PostPosted: Thu Feb 07, 2002 3:16 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Received the Metaldriver TMD-2 and Overdrive TOD-2 yesterday. The overdrive is good but the metaldriver is in it's own class! This box can sound exactly like an old tube screamer but it's a lot more versatile. It has a bright control and a frequency control that changes the sound dramatically. If you find one, buy it! I don't know why Tokai called it metaldriver, it's a great pedal for blues, rock and hard rock.

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PostPosted: Fri Mar 29, 2002 11:04 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'll have to say that the Tokai overdrive (TOD-2) is excellent. I've used it for some time now and it's really good, almost as good as the Metaldriver (TMD-2). If you find one of these (or the older TOD-1) don't hesitate to buy it. I've also bought a Tokai Compressor (TCO-1) and it's really good too. Looking inside the TOD-2 and TMD-2 the pcb's has the text TOD-1 and TMD-1 printed on them. They are probably the same except for the different housing (the older one's are metal, the newer plastic).

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PostPosted: Sun Mar 31, 2002 10:10 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I have a TOD-1, TFL-1, TDS-1 and TDL-1 that I bought in 1985 and "retired" them last year to buy a Boss ME-30. BIG MISTAKE.
The TDL-1 Analog Delay is much better than the Digital unit used in the Boss and the Overdrive really sings.
I am trying to find a TCO-1 Compressor to complete the set and then i might retire the Boss and begin using the Tokai pedals again.

Peter
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PostPosted: Sun Mar 31, 2002 1:12 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I know what you mean, I traded my TDL-1 for a Yamaha REX-50 digital multi effect in 1990. I still regret it and I haven't been able to find another TDL-1 unfortunately. I bought the TCO-1 compressor last week and I really like it.

In the 80's I was using a Ibanez effect with a compressor, a TS-9 overdrive and chorus (don't remember the name of the unit) together with the TDL-1 and it sounded really good.

I have two TDS-1 distortion, one black and one silver, strangely enough these do not sound exactly the same. The black one has a little more midrange.


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PostPosted: Mon Apr 01, 2002 7:34 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Peter, there is a TCO-1 compressor on ebay.com now. It's located in Canada, seller ships worldwide.

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PostPosted: Mon Apr 01, 2002 8:11 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I've been keeping my eye on these to start collecting.

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javelin70
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PostPosted: Mon Apr 01, 2002 2:41 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Me too, I know have two TDS-1 distortion, one TOD-2 overdrive, one TMD-2 metaldriver, a TCO-1 compressor and a TPH-1 phaser. I'm also looking for a TDL-1 delay and a TCH-1 chorus, but they are very hard to find in Sweden. I'm just home from rehearsal with the band and I used the TCO-1, TOD-2 and a TDS-1 and I'm really pleased with the sound I get. Bye-bye Boss DS-2 distortion, the Tokai's are so much better.

Michael

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PostPosted: Tue Apr 02, 2002 2:39 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hi Michael,
thanks for the tip about the TCO-1 - I have now placed a bid for it. It is silver????
All my other Tokai boxes are black so if i get the silver one, at least i know which one it is, ha,ha,ha.
I have had a few boxes over the years - Ibanez Tube Screamer, DOD overdrive, CE-1 Chorus Ens., various other BOSS pedals but found the Tokai to be of equal or better quality, both in construction and sound.

RE: Chorus pedal - If you can get the TFL-1 Flanger instead go for that. A flanger is basically a chorus but with other modulation added. I found by using only the depth and speed buttons with the rate and feedback buttons fully off, i get an excellent chorus.

Peter
PS - I hope this doesn't push the prices of the pedals up also.
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PostPosted: Tue Apr 02, 2002 2:50 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Peter, my compressor is also silver just as one of the distortions. I think they are a little older than the black ones, probably from '84 and earlier. In the '85 and newer catalogs they are black. Good luck on the bidding! I paid about $70 US for my TCO-1, on the other hand I got the TDS-1's and the TPH-1 really cheap ($20-25 each).

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james
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PostPosted: Tue Apr 02, 2002 9:56 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

A quick internet search shows that these pedals are still to be found under the category of bargain, at least compared to the more well known collectables. Here are a few places that have some:

http://www.kissmyamp.com/effects.htm
http://sh333.bizland.com/biglist.htm
http://www.nana.or.jp/~kudopon/used/c.eff.html
http://www.custom-sounds.com/vintage.htm

I've collected a few old effects over the years, all picked up on the cheap as they were 'out of fashion' (including an original EH Big Muff, a script logo MXR Phase 90 and a mains powered MXR Flanger), but I don't remember seeing any Tokai pedals. I'll definitly be keeping an eye out now, but I reckon the prices will be on the rise, as the word seems to be out on them!
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PostPosted: Tue Apr 02, 2002 12:35 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I bought my TOD-2 and TMD-2 from Custom Sounds in Finland for 220 Euro, not exactly cheap but they are worth it! I also e-mailed the japanese who had a couple of Tokai pedals (http://www.nana.or.jp/~kudopon/used/c.eff.html ) but I never received any answer. The hunt goes on for a couple of more Tokai pedals!

Michael

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Peter Mac
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PostPosted: Wed Apr 10, 2002 6:57 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hi guys,
I was unsuccessful with my bid for the compressor so I will just have to keep on looking.
Thanks for the support.
Let me know if you spot any others.
regards
Peter
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PostPosted: Wed Apr 10, 2002 8:26 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hi Peter,

Sorry you missed out. I know its not necessarily a guide to current value, but what did these pedals retail for in the 80s? Just wondering, because AUS$85 (~GBP30)doesn't sound too bad to me as a used price, especially as they're decent quality. I guess I'm used to high prices in the UK. I'm sure a few years ago you probably couldn't give these pedals away but now that people know more about Tokai in general (ironically because of sites like these) I think prices are bound to jump.
Anyway, I'm keeping an eye out for them so if I see any compressors I'll let you know.

James
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javelin70
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PostPosted: Wed Apr 10, 2002 1:17 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

In Sweden the prices were between approx ?30 and ?95 in the 80's depending on the pedal. The most expensive one was the delay, that was ?95 when I bought it new in 85 or 86. I've actually paid more for some of the pedals than they cost new but they are hard to find in Sweden. On the other hand I got some of them cheap. I just bought a Tokai exciter TXC-1 from Germany, paid about ?35 for it including the shipping.

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