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Tokai purchasing advice please! LS85F MIJ
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D3M0N1C
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PostPosted: Mon Mar 04, 2013 3:45 pm    Post subject: Tokai purchasing advice please! LS85F MIJ Reply with quote

Ello folks,

I've been offered a brand new, unused, Tokai LS85F MIJ. Brought from Richtone Music Store in 2006 by a collector. I'm struggling to find an average secondhand price for them so not sure if its a good deal or not.

FINISHED IN TOKAI'S VIOLIN BURST, THE SPECIFICATION READS AS FOLLOWS;
BOOKMATCHED & FLAMED SYCAMORE TOP ON MAPLE CAP.
SOLID MAHOGANY BODY.
MAHOGANY ONE PIECE SET NECK.
HEADSTOCK ANGLE 18 DEGREES.
ROSEWOOD FINGERBOARD.
LS-VB BRIDGE.
LS-VT TAILPIECE.
BONE NUT 43 mm.
DISH INLAYS.
PAF VINTAGE MK2 PICK UPS.
2 x VOLUME, 2 x TONE.
3 WAY TOGGLE SWITCH.

Its almost exactly the same spec as the LS95F I was looking at for ?870.

Does anyone have any info or buying tips? What to look out for to make sure its genuine? I would be picking up in person and can probably get images of the serial number etc.

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Tokai-Les-Paul-LS85-MIJ-/230934953711?ViewItem=&ssPageName=ADME%3AX%3AAAQ%3AGB%3A1123&item=230934953711&nma=true&si=1PQd1FTVTwKPXo5gFh0O0dtnP2A%253D&orig_cvip=true&rt=nc&_trksid=p2047675.l2557

What would you pay for it?
Cheers.
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PostPosted: Mon Mar 04, 2013 4:00 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Did you get it then as the listing is ended?
I'd have paid that for it no problem.
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PostPosted: Mon Mar 04, 2013 4:14 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Me too, good spec and a real looker.
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PostPosted: Mon Mar 04, 2013 5:05 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Cool, Yeah the listing has ended but I've made a private offer on it.
I couldn't find much on prices for them so I just made him an offer a bit less than the asking price.
You think its worth between ?500-?600 then?
Thanks for the help
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PostPosted: Tue Mar 05, 2013 6:42 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

What it's worth is always a tricky one - it's a personal thing, what are you willing to pay for that guitar? Personally I'd say yes, it's worth it. They are great guitars.
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PostPosted: Tue Mar 05, 2013 10:37 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Same price as my unplayed mint condition LS80 from 2010.
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PostPosted: Tue Mar 05, 2013 12:30 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hey dudes, thanks for the input, I appreciate it

I've got it for ?500 if I want it

How does the spec of your LS80 compare to the LS85F Felix?

I don't think I'm gonna get a better quality guitar for the same price really, my final choice was the Tokai LS85F, something very similar, or the Gibson L6S.

http://www.thomann.de/gb/gibson_l6s_silverburst.htm
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PostPosted: Tue Mar 05, 2013 1:37 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Specifications - Tokai LS80
Made in Japan
Plain Maple Two Pieces Top
Solid Mahogany Back
Mahogany one piece set neck
Headstock Angle 18 Degs.
Rosewood fingerboard
300R Radius
625/312.5mm Scale
22 Frets
Dish Inlays
Bone Nut 43mm Wide
Tokai PAF MK2 pickups
3 way toggle switch
2 Volume, 2 Tone Switch
LS-VB Bridge
LS-VT Tailpiece
Nickel hardware
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PostPosted: Tue Mar 05, 2013 3:41 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'd take the Tokai over that Gibson any day (no offense...)
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PostPosted: Tue Mar 05, 2013 3:51 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

+1
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PostPosted: Tue Mar 05, 2013 7:07 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

?500 is a very good price for that as far as I'm concerned! I thought it was OK at the eBay asking price of 649 given its condition.
And that Gibson will be rubbish in comparison to the Tokai.
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PostPosted: Wed Mar 06, 2013 12:42 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

nickdsmith wrote:
And that Gibson will be rubbish in comparison to the Tokai.


Played it have you?

Personally I really detest Silverburst, but that L6 type is so different to a LP that I don't think the OP should consider it if a LP type is what they want.
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PostPosted: Wed Mar 06, 2013 1:28 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Is ?500 a good price for an LS98F?

Well, it's about "cost" price from the Tokai factory with a bit of shipping added...I'd say YES it's an incredible price.

Btw, it's not Violin Finish, it's Heritage Dark Cherry.

Here's the identical guitar, Cherryburst in action.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BpZ9hEGJv0E&feature=youtu.be
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PostPosted: Wed Mar 06, 2013 9:04 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Silverburst = thumbs down here too. What were they thinking!
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PostPosted: Wed Mar 06, 2013 9:21 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

JVsearch wrote:
nickdsmith wrote:
And that Gibson will be rubbish in comparison to the Tokai.


Played it have you?

Personally I really detest Silverburst, but that L6 type is so different to a LP that I don't think the OP should consider it if a LP type is what they want.

OK so perhaps I was exaggerating a bit.
But I'm sure we'd all agree that a Tokai that would cost new today more than that Gibson would be a better made guitar.
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