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Tokai tele neck? on vintage fender.

 
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makaze
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PostPosted: Thu Apr 19, 2012 2:37 pm    Post subject: Tokai tele neck? on vintage fender. Reply with quote

There is a Fender Telecaster on ebay UK at the moment, I had spotted his "69" strat he has for sale and checking out his other items I was amazed to see a 67/68 Tele and a close up of the neck date which is 1=11, isn't that just a Tokai unique code system or have I been wrong all these years.

Someone with more expertise please look and comment.
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PostPosted: Thu Apr 19, 2012 3:22 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

item number 221002101814

title 1966-67 FENDER TELECASTER - BEAUTIFUL
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PostPosted: Thu Apr 19, 2012 5:28 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

1. Wrong pickguard. Should be 3 ply white.
2. Should be double line Kluson or F-style
3. Too early for "Mickey Mouse" ears in the neck pocket.
4. The finish marks in the neck pocket are totally wrong.
5. Wrong string tree.
6. The case is no younger than -66 (at least consistent with the sellers claims)
7. Totally wrong pin holes
8. Etc

Tokai from late 70's and into the 80's have Mickey ears in the neck pocket and that paint free square + the pin holes.
I'd say it is an oversprayed Tokai body and a Tokai neck with a Fender logo.
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JVsearch
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PostPosted: Thu Apr 19, 2012 10:33 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Koubayashi wrote:
1. Wrong pickguard. Should be 3 ply white.
2. Should be double line Kluson or F-style
3. Too early for "Mickey Mouse" ears in the neck pocket.
4. The finish marks in the neck pocket are totally wrong.
5. Wrong string tree.
6. The case is no younger than -66 (at least consistent with the sellers claims)
7. Totally wrong pin holes
8. Etc

Tokai from late 70's and into the 80's have Mickey ears in the neck pocket and that paint free square + the pin holes.
I'd say it is an oversprayed Tokai body and a Tokai neck with a Fender logo.


Something may be very wrong with this auction.

The countersinking around the holes in the neck pocket - I thought that was a Tokai thing?

A search of 60's Fender neck pocket images didn't show any with the countersinking. I've had a couple of early to mid 60s Fenders myself and their neck pockets did not look like the one on this guitar.

I also don't like the general appearance of the neck for a 60s Fender.

Koubayashi may be 100% correct with his assessment that it's a Tokai.
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PostPosted: Thu Apr 19, 2012 10:33 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

+2
totally agree
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makaze
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PostPosted: Fri Apr 20, 2012 2:23 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Poor guy, he has a "collection" of vintage Fender's, did anyone check out his 1969 strat, is that another Tokai?
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PostPosted: Fri Apr 20, 2012 4:43 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

The body effectively seems tokai (see pin holes), the rest seems fender... or not?
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