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singemonkey
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PostPosted: Fri Mar 30, 2012 5:12 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Probably already biased by seeing the responses of others but I agree that 4 sounds best and that 1 and 3 are the same.
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bluesyrat
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PostPosted: Fri Mar 30, 2012 10:43 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thanks! noted...

CMON!!! ONLY SIX MEMBER'S OPINION YET... (thanks a lot them!!)
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bluesyrat
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PostPosted: Mon Apr 02, 2012 11:07 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

calling up... calling up... is there anybody out there? Calling up...
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Mono
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PostPosted: Mon Apr 02, 2012 11:40 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

First: good idea for a test and thank you for recording/setting it all up for us. I have always asked the same question, GAS vs. actual tone improvement.

My guesses:

I think track 2 and track 3 are the same guitar.
I can tell this because they both sound MUCH darker than track 1 and 4, and I think the G string was flat on both the recordings

Track 1: nice bright and open - ST100
Track 2 and 3: dark - ST50
Track 4: Fernandes R-9

Best track I think is Track 1.
Also, I avoided reading other people's opinions to make sure I wasn't biased.
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bluesyrat
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PostPosted: Mon Apr 02, 2012 11:58 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

recorded! Thank you.

the more opinions we express the more likely we are to have a good final result...
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greco_burst
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PostPosted: Mon Apr 02, 2012 5:56 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hi

k01 = Goldie ST-50
k02 = R9 with toneriders
k03 = R9 with toneriders
k04 = Springy ST-100
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BlueThird
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PostPosted: Mon Apr 02, 2012 8:32 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thought that different guitars sounded better with different segments, and could happily live with K1, K3 or K4. I'm guessing that K1 and K3 are the same. To my ear K2 was clearly the worst of the bunch ? too murky in the lower registers. But that was only until just after the two and a half minute mark, when three apparently normal guitars suddenly became absolutely excruciating. Ah yes, the music. That's the most important thing.

Obviously the right guitar for you isn't the one that sounds 'best', but the one that lets you get closest to your music.
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bluesyrat
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PostPosted: Mon Apr 02, 2012 10:43 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thanks a lot! All noted...

@BlueThird: your "excruciating" reminded me a very famous Catullo's verse, that we can apply to the GAS matter

Quare id faciam, fortasse requiris.
Nescio, sed fieri sentio et excrucior.

Perhaps you ask me how I do.
I do not know, but I feel that this is happening, and I am tormented.


we could try to recite it our wives in times of real need (such as the courier is at the door...)

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BlueThird
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PostPosted: Mon Apr 02, 2012 11:45 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'm not convinced that someone's distress at another human being having bought a new guitar (an unambiguous act of love, quite obviously) can possibly compare to mine at hearing echoes of Knopfler!
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bluesyrat
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PostPosted: Tue Apr 03, 2012 2:10 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

No, absolutely. It was an etymological matter to joking about, not a judgement on your idea. Respect.
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mirrorboy
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PostPosted: Tue Apr 03, 2012 6:07 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

bluesyrat wrote:
Quare id faciam, fortasse requiris.
Nescio, sed fieri sentio et excrucior.

Perhaps you ask me how I do.
I do not know, but I feel that this is happening, and I am tormented.




That reminds me of Salvo Montalbano torn between his love of pasta and his love for Livia
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mcdeadcat
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PostPosted: Tue Apr 03, 2012 6:58 am    Post subject: Testing... Reply with quote

k01 - Tokai ST-100
k02 - Tokai TST-50
k03 - Tokai TST-50
k04 - Fernandes R9

It doesn't help that he strings catch your fingers more on the opening chords on K02 and K03, but that's just a lame excuse in case I am wrong!

K01 definitely sounds richer and similar to k04
k02 and k03 sound similar too.

Intriguing test. I wouldn't buy k01 he added bravely!
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bluesyrat
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PostPosted: Tue Apr 03, 2012 10:45 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Noted... Thank you

@mirrorboy:

@mcdeadcat: very brave! I take it for a preference...
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jonah65
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PostPosted: Tue Apr 03, 2012 3:02 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

hey bluesy, i finally got sound

ko1 = st100
ko2 = fernandes
ko3 = st100
ko4 = st50

clips 1+3 i like best.

cheers jonah.
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Mojo Pin
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PostPosted: Tue Apr 03, 2012 9:27 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I have no experience with any of these guitars, so I can't guess which is which. That said I like number 4 closely followed by number 2. 1 and 3 sounded the same to me.
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