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THE BLIND TEST ENDED
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bluesyrat
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PostPosted: Sun Mar 25, 2012 3:52 pm    Post subject: THE BLIND TEST ENDED Reply with quote

Hi all folks,
after some week spent on thinking about it, I decided to launch the BLIND TEST.

If it is so true that all we guitar players are always in GAS trouble, and we?re in perpetual research to satisfy our even more fine ears, it would be very simple to distinguish between three very different strat guitars, in terms of liuthery construction, materials, electronics and? price.
But we?re so sure we?re able to do this without our EYES? Just listening them? What I want to say is that, basing on certain features, we expect that an instrument gives a specific sound. But not always, when we play it, we obtain that. So the GAS. But often (very often, don?t lie) the GAS is an aesthetic matter, not an Harmonic Colorful Research. Or it?s a snobbery behavior (my guitar is the best in the world, it?s better than yours, you have to envy my instruments and so on).
Ok, you will not do that; I?m generally speaking?
That said, I took 3 strats of mine (the best in the world obviousely) that you can see in the image.



They are (from the left):

Tokai springy sound ST100 March 1980: fantastic grain one piece body (ash), quarter sawn maple V neck with very thin rosewood fingerboard. All original, ?E? stamped pick ups. Nitro finish. A bit heavy 8.37 lbs.
more photos here: https://picasaweb.google.com/101107667234599124668/TOKAISt100?authuser=0&authkey=Gv1sRgCJDx5vfeiP7sEw&feat=directlink

Tokai goldstar sound st50 April 1984: marvelous two piece ash body, maple U neck. All original, ?U? stamped pick ups. Very thin poly(urethane) finish. Very light 7.14 lbs.
more photos here: https://picasaweb.google.com/101107667234599124668/TOKAIGoldstarSound1984?authuser=0&authkey=Gv1sRgCMKT_dXuwbbGtQE&feat=directlink

Fernandes R-9 1995 (become a bit maniacally a '61 str@t): Two piece alder (basswood?) body, maple C neck with generous slab board rosewood fingerboard. Heavy relic poly(ester) finish, Tonerider ?Pure Vintage? pick ups. Weight 7.35 lbs
more photos here: https://picasaweb.google.com/101107667234599124668/6163Stratocaster?authuser=0&authkey=Gv1sRgCO36h6CThPue_wE&feat=directlink

All guitars are setted up to give their maximum. All have same 0.10 gauge new strings (nickel wound).

Sound is recorded micing the cab plugged into an handmade 5w class A single ended amp. No effects. Controls untouched during the test, amp always on even changing guitar.
I played each instrument for a while like I was trying it in a shop. All played with fingers, no picks.

What you have to do is: first matching each audio file to each guitar model. Then choose your best.
To add some spicy taste there are three guitars but four files. Two are played with the same guitar. So you have to match two files with the same guitar...
I think we?ll see very good things about our instruments approach.

here the files:

k01 - http://chirb.it/GL74cP

k02 - http://chirb.it/wvxs36

k03 - http://chirb.it/Kv4axk

k04 - http://chirb.it/hnI86z


TEST ENDS 10 APRIL 2012. Then the results. Thank you all.
p.s. please, I know that this is not the best procedure to elaborate. It?s only a beta tempt? if you don?t want participate, simply don?t do it; if you have fun, I?ll be glad.

p.p.s. is there someone that wants to do the same with LS models?


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mirrorboy
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PostPosted: Mon Mar 26, 2012 5:49 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hi, thanks for taking the trouble to put this together. What a great idea and it sounds like fun.

here are my opinions...
k01 - Tokai TST-50
k02 - Fernandes R9
k03 - Tokai TST-50
k04 - Tokai ST-100
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Peller
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PostPosted: Mon Mar 26, 2012 8:42 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Interesting idea!

No idea which is which, but it sounds to me as though #1 and #3 are the same guitar (albeit out of tune on #3). That's the one I like the least. I think #4 probably just wins for me.
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bluesyrat
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PostPosted: Mon Mar 26, 2012 10:30 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thank you guys! I'm recording your opinions...

@mirrorboy: Thank you. could you give your best preference also?

@Peller: c'mon! it's a game please, if you have time, match the files with guitars... we have only to construct a basis to debate on. (anyway i took note about your opinion, thank you very much)


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mirrorboy
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PostPosted: Mon Mar 26, 2012 11:39 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Oh right, I think k04 sounds the best. Ciao!
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jonah65
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PostPosted: Tue Mar 27, 2012 2:06 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

great idea, i'd like to participate, but don't seem to get any sound from the bite.
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bluesyrat
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PostPosted: Tue Mar 27, 2012 2:21 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

mmm i'm sorry i don't know why...
other guys listened them...

i can send them with an email to all who have problems to listen. PM me...

Are you agree jonah65?
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PostPosted: Tue Mar 27, 2012 2:39 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

pm'ed you bluesy.
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iainblack
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PostPosted: Tue Mar 27, 2012 3:22 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hi, great idea. I am guessing

1 = fernandes
2 = tst 50
3 = tst 50
4 = tst 100

I prefer the first clip (fernandes) sound

Iain
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bluesyrat
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PostPosted: Wed Mar 28, 2012 10:12 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Noted! Thanks

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mirrorboy
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PostPosted: Thu Mar 29, 2012 9:40 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Come on guys, I thought there would have been a better response by now. This is for fun!
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PostPosted: Thu Mar 29, 2012 10:17 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

maybe you should have posted tyhe challenge as 'my guitars sond better than yours' to get a response !
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japaxes
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PostPosted: Thu Mar 29, 2012 11:35 am    Post subject: results Reply with quote

fernandes
tokai st 50
tokai st50
tokai st 100
as per mr black think no 1 sounds the best overall
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bluesyrat
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PostPosted: Thu Mar 29, 2012 12:18 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

noted, thank you!

@japaxes: mr black really prefer the first clip...


CMON!!!
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JVsearch
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PostPosted: Fri Mar 30, 2012 2:19 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'm voting for:

k04 = ST-50

The rest I'm still struggling with.

k01 = ST-100
k02 = ST-100
k03 = Fernandes R9

It's all I got...
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