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Bacchus CLASSIC series?
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wulfman
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PostPosted: Sat Jul 30, 2011 8:41 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

GammyBird wrote:
Ok...I though I posted this already but WTF, I'll do it again.

I just finished reading through all 20 pages of this thread and figured I'd post some pictures of the Bacchus Classic that is on the way from Japan now. Hopefully I'll have it in my hands by the middle of next week. I hope I'm as happy with it as Mitch is with his







Hi Gammy, I was down at Big Boss in Ochanomizu today where they have a few Classic plaintops and from the look of those you will not be disappointed. The necks are nice and beefy too so hopefully you will appreciate that.

Looking forward to the report.
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PostPosted: Sat Jul 30, 2011 1:17 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'm big on the slim profile necks because that's what I've always played. But I've been playing my Dillion 58 Explorer lately getting used to the beefy neck. I'm sure once I plug it in I'll appreciate it much more
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PostPosted: Sun Jul 31, 2011 7:52 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Here is the Custom with the Evertune. Which I have to say is the best thing since the guitar itself. Simply amazing and the guitar is like a piano now. Rings lik crazy. And the best intonation I have ever heard on any guitar. And climate change doesn't effect it. The AC does nothing to it. It came from L.A. to Nashville I took it out of the case and started recording. Perfectly in tune. Freaky. And man do you get spoiled fast. Pick up another guitar and it's like OH MAN THIS THING IS WAY OUT OF TUNE! I have to say the stock Pu's also are working great. I've been recording this guitar for 3 days now. It's versatile. Big and bright and great for that clean articulate sound and then great for crunch and also great for solo's. It's the most versatile guitar I own.
The Duke is going to have to be amazing to beat it and I would bet I will have EverTune installed on that right away as well. If I love it. If I don't it's going up for sale.

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PostPosted: Sun Jul 31, 2011 7:57 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

My guitars are all down a half step with 11's and yesterday I needed to do a drop D on the low E so it was actually C# just for a few chords and riffs on this one song and my action is fairly low on this guitar and that C# rang like a bell. I was very impressed. This guitar now really blows away the Standard. I already liked it better without EverTune but that bridge puts it in a new league.
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PostPosted: Sun Jul 31, 2011 9:21 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Cool.... nice guitar. You by the way, seem to get younger as you age. Good on ya, Mitch.
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It's the hair. And the new guitars keeps me young. And the makingnodnmybnew cd is really making me happy. So
much work but so worth it.
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PostPosted: Sun Jul 31, 2011 9:57 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Nice looking Custom.
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Hassouni
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PostPosted: Mon Nov 14, 2011 11:06 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

So the big question for me is, do these have that classic Les Paul sound? the endless sustain, the note bloom, the woodiness?
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PostPosted: Mon Nov 14, 2011 11:25 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hassouni wrote:
So the big question for me is, do these have that classic Les Paul sound? the endless sustain, the note bloom, the woodiness?


Well, that also depends upon the amp, effects, etc....

From a generic sense, plugged straight into the amp with no overdrive, the simple answer would be yes. However, I find the Bacchus pickups to be a bit darker than most.... just as clear and bell like, but darker.

Friend of mine just bought a Gibson 50th anniversary R9 for around $5,000 and almost cried after he played mine for a bit.
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PostPosted: Mon Nov 14, 2011 1:02 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Does it sound loud and resonant unplugged?
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PostPosted: Mon Nov 14, 2011 1:40 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hassouni wrote:
Does it sound loud and resonant unplugged?


Sure.. rings like a bell... you can also feel the resonance thru the body and the neck. Mind you though, it's a solid maple top (not veneer) and a one piece back.... I do think that makes a difference to some degree...

Then I went a step further and installed the Faber locking alum tailpiece/studs and the ABR bridge with brass saddles/locking posts and it took a good thing and enhanced it even further. I put the Faber stuff on all of my Les Pauls because it really does make a difference.

Shortly before I bought the Classic Series Bacchus, I bought a brand new Tokai LS150 (now an LS165 I believe)... I've done extensive side by side comparisons to them. The Bacchus neck is fatter, they both weigh about the same at 9.25 lbs and as mentioned, the Bacchus is darker sounding while the Tokai is a bit brighter. The Bacchus pickups are more balanced in output than the Tokai's... neck on the Tokai (as most humbucking guitars) can get a bit boomy and loud in contrast to the bridge pickup. The Bacchus has a unique sweet spot when playing in the middle position...if I adjust the volume / tone just right for both pickups, I get a very honky, almost T Bone Walker or Peter Green tone out of it.
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PostPosted: Mon Nov 14, 2011 5:21 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

marcusnieman wrote:

Sure.. rings like a bell... you can also feel the resonance thru the body and the neck. Mind you though, it's a solid maple top (not veneer) and a one piece back.... I do think that makes a difference to some degree...



How's that aspect in comparison to your Tokai?
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PostPosted: Mon Nov 14, 2011 9:24 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hassouni wrote:
marcusnieman wrote:

Sure.. rings like a bell... you can also feel the resonance thru the body and the neck. Mind you though, it's a solid maple top (not veneer) and a one piece back.... I do think that makes a difference to some degree...



How's that aspect in comparison to your Tokai?


The Tokai is a plaintop... solid as well. One piece back..... between the two, the Bacchus is more resonant unplugged and the decay of a chord is longer plugged in.... but, the Tokai pickups (MKII's) are very lively and it makes up for any unplugged resonance... besides, I don't play either unplugged. The LS150 (165 now) is a keeper for sure. I'd put it up against a Gibson any day... that's why I bought it. The Bacchus came along not long after I got the Tokai and it was an impulse buy.... about $600 more than the Tokai too..... but the quality is there. I was going to sell the Tokai to finance the Bacchus... just can't bring myself to sell it.
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PostPosted: Mon Nov 14, 2011 10:34 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

did you get your Tokai used? Because new, isn't the Bacchus cheaper?
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PostPosted: Tue Nov 15, 2011 7:28 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hassouni wrote:
did you get your Tokai used? Because new, isn't the Bacchus cheaper?


No...bought the Tokai brand new from Japan a couple years ago - about $1300 delivered

The Bacchus was about $1900 delivered. The plaintop is a bit less expensive.
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