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Pre "by Gibson" Orville serial number help?

 
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stringking28
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PostPosted: Mon Aug 30, 2010 9:45 am    Post subject: Pre "by Gibson" Orville serial number help? Reply with quote

Hi everybody, I'm new here and this is my first post. My name is George and I'm 16. I'm from the States.

I have a lead on an Orville, not "by Gibson" Goldtop Les Paul believed to be either a 86 or 87. The serial number is 6 digits with no letter. Is this a valid serial number? If so, how do I date it? It ends with 85 but starts with 5. Would this make it an 85'? Any help appreciated thanks.

Also, any other info on pre-ObG Orvilles would be helpful too. Thanks.
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PostPosted: Mon Aug 30, 2010 10:01 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Read this.... good info here. (Orville didn't preceed Orville by Gibson - Orville was all MIJ and OBG used US components):

http://www.guitarsjapan.com/orvillegibsoninfopage.html
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PostPosted: Mon Aug 30, 2010 11:26 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

The Orville by Gibsons started in 1988 and went to 1995.
The Orvilles started in 1989 and went to 1998.
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stringking28
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PostPosted: Mon Aug 30, 2010 11:38 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

So there was no Orville before 1988?
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Crash
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PostPosted: Mon Aug 30, 2010 12:57 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

stringking28 wrote:
So there was no Orville before 1988?


That would be correct.
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stringking28
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PostPosted: Mon Aug 30, 2010 6:08 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ok, I got it figured out thanks. The guitar in question is a 1995 Orville Gold top. Some dings and scratches.

How much do these usually go for in USD?
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PostPosted: Tue Aug 31, 2010 9:18 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

stringking28 wrote:

How much do these usually go for in USD?


Nothing usual about any guitar prices in this economy.... it's a lousy time to sell and a great time to buy. Have you looked on ebay? There are a bunch of Orvilles on there ranging between $600 and $800.... and there is an Orville goldtop for sale at $1275
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Crash
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PostPosted: Thu Sep 09, 2010 12:56 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

stringking28 wrote:
Ok, I got it figured out thanks. The guitar in question is a 1995 Orville Gold top. Some dings and scratches.

How much do these usually go for in USD?


I don't know if a gold top commands anything extra or not but it is a good time to buy. I just bought this 89 ObG Custom for $750.00. It was already in the states and that price included shipping and a brown Gibson USA hardcase. In general, great shape with a ding or two here and there, to be expected for a guitar that is 21+ years old.

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PostPosted: Fri Sep 17, 2010 12:27 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

marcusnieman wrote:
stringking28 wrote:

How much do these usually go for in USD?


Nothing usual about any guitar prices in this economy.... it's a lousy time to sell and a great time to buy. Have you looked on ebay? There are a bunch of Orvilles on there ranging between $600 and $800.... and there is an Orville goldtop for sale at $1275


Prices are dropping on Japanese axes.
They were overpriced over the last 2 years and now people realised that it is easier to add 100? and buy a Gibson. Which I agree with.

To pay thousands of ? for a veneer top is in my opinion a bad deal.
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PostPosted: Fri Sep 17, 2010 12:28 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Crash wrote:
stringking28 wrote:
Ok, I got it figured out thanks. The guitar in question is a 1995 Orville Gold top. Some dings and scratches.

How much do these usually go for in USD?


I don't know if a gold top commands anything extra or not but it is a good time to buy. I just bought this 89 ObG Custom for $750.00. It was already in the states and that price included shipping and a brown Gibson USA hardcase. In general, great shape with a ding or two here and there, to be expected for a guitar that is 21+ years old.



Looking good!
Maple top?
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Crash
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PostPosted: Fri Sep 17, 2010 10:39 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Maple top.... that is a good question, I am not sure to be honest. All I know is that is the best guitar I have ever owned.
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