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Koubayashi
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PostPosted: Wed Jul 28, 2010 7:09 am    Post subject: Orville Plaintop with nitro Reply with quote

Picked this beauty up today.

its a bit weird cause it has nitro finish and before the refret it had FEB.
Anyone seen this on an Orville before?

Edit: It also has one piece back. Weighs in at 3.75kg.
Probably a fantastic player.



This is also a little interesting:


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PostPosted: Wed Jul 28, 2010 7:52 am    Post subject: Re: Orville Plaintop with nitro Reply with quote

Koubayashi wrote:
Picked this beauty up today.

its a bit weird cause it has nitro finish and before the refret it had FEB.
Anyone seen this on an Orville before?



sure it isn't a refin?
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PostPosted: Wed Jul 28, 2010 8:09 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I don't think it is a refin.
Looks straight to me.

Here is the neck PU cavity

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PostPosted: Wed Jul 28, 2010 11:10 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

how did you test it for nitro? and whats the evidence of fret binding?
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PostPosted: Wed Jul 28, 2010 12:46 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

villager wrote:
how did you test it for nitro? and whats the evidence of fret binding?


To test the nitro I always do as follows:

Firstly: acetone
Secondly: nitrocellulose solvent

It got all sticky and white from the acetone and the nitro solvent whiped it off good.

Its the same method I used when I discovered that not all high end Super Reals are finished in nitro. Poly finish doesn't react at all with acetone, nor nitro solvent.

The neck binding have left overs from the FEB.
Edges and "little bumps" are left.
Whoever refretted it didn't sand it down properly.
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PostPosted: Wed Jul 28, 2010 12:52 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

well in that case its a very wierd orville!!!
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PostPosted: Wed Jul 28, 2010 12:58 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

villager wrote:
well in that case its a very wierd orville!!!


Indeed.

Since the Japanese are so inconsistant I test the finish on all guitars.
I was very surprised.
I was convinced it had a 2-3 piece body at first but then I polished it up and checked the edges in proper light, there is no seam anywhere.

The pots, the switch, the wiring and the PUPs are non-original so there is no information to find.

A pleasant surprise for sure.
So pleasant that I bought two Orvilles from the same year today
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PostPosted: Wed Jul 28, 2010 1:56 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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A pleasant surprise for sure.
So pleasant that I bought two Orvilles from the same year today


which year is that?
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PostPosted: Wed Jul 28, 2010 2:08 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

i have just had 2 one piece backed ObG recently, but those were 2 of about 5 in all i have seen, i have no experience with orvilles, but nothing surprises me about these, matbe it was destined to be an ObG and got relegated at the last moment!! who knows:
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PostPosted: Wed Jul 28, 2010 2:10 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

jacco wrote:
Koubayashi wrote:
A pleasant surprise for sure.
So pleasant that I bought two Orvilles from the same year today


which year is that?


98.
Last run isn't it?
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PostPosted: Wed Jul 28, 2010 2:11 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

villager wrote:
i have just had 2 one piece backed ObG recently, but those were 2 of about 5 in all i have seen, i have no experience with orvilles, but nothing surprises me about these, matbe it was destined to be an ObG and got relegated at the last moment!! who knows:



I also suspect that it was destined to be an ObG 59ri but ended up as a "regular" Orville.
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PostPosted: Wed Jul 28, 2010 2:23 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Koubayashi wrote:
jacco wrote:
Koubayashi wrote:
A pleasant surprise for sure.
So pleasant that I bought two Orvilles from the same year today


which year is that?


98.
Last run isn't it?


Interesting, wouldn't expect that.
Like villager said; it would be logical these were intended to become ObGs.. but if so then they should from 95 I guess
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PostPosted: Wed Jul 28, 2010 2:30 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

jacco wrote:
Koubayashi wrote:
jacco wrote:
Koubayashi wrote:
A pleasant surprise for sure.
So pleasant that I bought two Orvilles from the same year today


which year is that?


98.
Last run isn't it?


Interesting, wouldn't expect that.
Like villager said; it would be logical these were intended to become ObGs.. but if so then they should from 95 I guess


Ooops. Maybe I misread the serial
I just turned it around and had a quick glance at it.

Dang. I might have made a mistake today

I will look more carefully and see what it says.
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PostPosted: Thu Jul 29, 2010 4:12 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

has to be 92/93/94/95 for fret binding
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PostPosted: Thu Jul 29, 2010 4:41 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I checked the serial carefully

It starts with either a 3, 5, 6 or 8.

I can't decide if it's a 3 or 8 or a 5 or 6.

There are good arguments for every number

The serial number looks a bit smeared which could be the result of a refin but I can't see any other signs of a refin. And I have seen smeared serial numbers on tonnes of Japanese Lesters.


And what is up with the one piece body???
Btw, no FEB after 95? We both know that the Japanese makers were seriously inconsistant so I don't take that as a truth:wink:

Which leads to another question: are all ObG supposed to be finished in nitro? I have read that they should but I have had both reissues and "Standards" which were finished in poly.
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