1983 80VF tokai...help id what model

doppleganger · Apr 9, 2010

seller claims this one has a solid mapletop, in my research for models with solid flametops, the ls150 and ls200 seems to fit the bill in 83

a scarce info i got but here's a rundown
1. serial is 3xxxxxx
2. fret edge bindings
3. circuit board
4.is it 1 pc neck?
5. 1 pc back?
6.what color is this?
7.what model could it be?
8. update, seller says pups are tokai paf 57 and cavity has a 80VF mark
MIJ definitely

and here goes the pics:

i look forward for any input! TIA!

Mick51 · Apr 9, 2010

Fret edge binding says 80 or above. If the p/ups are the original - should be able to tell from the solder on the connector board in the cavity - the 57 PAF's pretty well guarantee that it is an LS-80.

I'd be a little bit skeptical of a solid top claim. It can be really, really difficult to tell on the Tokais. I suppose it is possible that Tokai used a solid, flamed top on a 1983 LS-80. But, I wouldn't pay a solid top price without pretty conclusive proof.

I'm sure there will be some others with more knowlege and experience along in a bit..

btw.. It's probably better not to post duplicate requests in multiple sections..

jacco · Apr 9, 2010

I own a 1979 LS-80 flame top..
Still think the serialnr on this guitar looks strange

doppleganger · Apr 9, 2010

Mick51 said:
Fret edge binding says 80 or above. If the p/ups are the original - should be able to tell from the solder on the connector board in the cavity - the 57 PAF's pretty well guarantee that it is an LS-80.

I'd be a little bit skeptical of a solid top claim. It can be really, really difficult to tell on the Tokais. I suppose it is possible that Tokai used a solid, flamed top on a 1983 LS-80. But, I wouldn't pay a solid top price without pretty conclusive proof.

I'm sure there will be some others with more knowlege and experience along in a bit..

btw.. It's probably better not to post duplicate requests in multiple sections..

tnx buddy, i have removed my post in the other forums now, it's just now that i saw that a dedicated pre 85 forum exists, my bad.

i've heard and read stories on it being a solid top, m yet to check it out today, will update everyone on it.

@jacco

yeah, strange serial # spacing i noticed too. anyone can clear this one up? the faded "love rock" is common, my buddy's have one too

Anonymous · Apr 10, 2010

doppleganger said:
the faded "love rock" is common, my buddy's have one too

Is it faded?

It looks like the top of the finish has been removed with some sort of circular sanding tool?

:-?

Mike

jacco · Apr 10, 2010

I had a similar thought and posted it in the other thread about this guitar; it doesn't look like normal wear..

jacco · Apr 10, 2010

by the way; it sure looks like a veneer top

doppleganger · Apr 10, 2010

tnx for the replies guys

i made a pass on it. the actual guitar doesn't do justice to the pictures. here are some points that made me say no:

1. looks like a fake, serial could've been other guitar's since i checked the logo and headstock, looks like it was altered and a tokai faceplate was installed instead. a new paint job on the headstock gives me suspicions on this as the logo doesn't look legit at all

2. with a fresh paint comes the hidden defect, i found out that there was a repair, headstock has been broken, a pattern of glued repair is a bit obvious. seller claims its part of the wood grain, but wtf, he sure seems thought he can scam me lolz!

3. overall condish is like 2/10, i never bothered checking the cavities and pickups after i saw it. could need a major repair and more money to make it sound better.

4. my take, i'd say it's not legit, but if i were wrong, i'd be glad not to pay 600usd for it. the flames are dull and veneer in my opinion, the seller knows how to use a SLR camera did the trick for the photos i guess.

i was just glad i didn't bite!

jacco · Apr 11, 2010

I think you made a wise decision!

doppleganger · Apr 11, 2010

jacco said:
I think you made a wise decision!

thanks man, the serial number gave me more thoughts lolz, thanks for pointing that out in the previous thread i made

jacco · Apr 12, 2010

yeah, this is a guitar that gives a feeling that something's wrong with it without having real hard evidence.
I am surprised that the real experts around here haven't helped you with it. maybe it's that difficult..

leadguitar_323 · Apr 12, 2010

I couldn't be certain about all the other things you mentioned unless i saw it in the flesh but i would bet my balls it is a veneer and also i have never seen a serial number like that ever.....steer clear of that one..

Mick

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