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januz
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PostPosted: Thu Nov 26, 2009 9:50 am    Post subject: Help to identify pickup. Reply with quote

Could someone help me to identify this PU? (From a Burny 335)

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PostPosted: Thu Nov 26, 2009 10:02 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Those are the post '87 re-issue VH1's which really are hotter than the originals and sound more similar to the VH2 or VH4 (the silver base and gray wire are also a give away).
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januz
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PostPosted: Thu Nov 26, 2009 11:03 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Udonitron wrote:
Those are the post '87 re-issue VH1's which really are hotter than the originals and sound more similar to the VH2 or VH4 (the silver base and gray wire are also a give away).


How hot? (How many k?)

Does these have a ceramic magnet?
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PostPosted: Sat Nov 28, 2009 6:42 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

januz wrote:
Udonitron wrote:
Those are the post '87 re-issue VH1's which really are hotter than the originals and sound more similar to the VH2 or VH4 (the silver base and gray wire are also a give away).


How hot? (How many k?)

Does these have a ceramic magnet?


Can't say for sure but those I have had of this model have all been ceramic. Just take of the covers and check the magnets.
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PostPosted: Sat Nov 28, 2009 9:17 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

That ceramic comment had always made me curious so, I ve taken all mine apart.I've had several of these late 80's VH1's and have yet to find a ceramic magnet? I've taken them apart and all the ones I've had, have roughcast alnico magnets, like the old 50's style magnets. There black and unpolished on top and polished on the other side. unlike most modern alnico magents which are usually polished all around. As far as dc resistance. most were 8k-8.4k that I've had. Koubayashi, Do you have any you could post a pic of?
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PostPosted: Sun Nov 29, 2009 2:12 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

NWOBHM wrote:
That ceramic comment had always made me curious so, I ve taken all mine apart.I've had several of these late 80's VH1's and have yet to find a ceramic magnet? I've taken them apart and all the ones I've had, have roughcast alnico magnets, like the old 50's style magnets. There black and unpolished on top and polished on the other side. unlike most modern alnico magents which are usually polished all around. As far as dc resistance. most were 8k-8.4k that I've had. Koubayashi, Do you have any you could post a pic of?


Ha ha, ooooops
Kind of fun if this is true.
I have regarded those pickups as ceramic cause of the black end (and thrown them in the garbage).
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PostPosted: Sun Nov 29, 2009 6:13 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I don't think you hurt anything so, it's all good Alot of pickup makers I've spoken too, say the old rough cast magnets have something to do with inductance and has some kind of effect on tone, what that effect is I don't know?
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januz
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PostPosted: Tue Dec 01, 2009 3:30 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

NWOBHM wrote:
That ceramic comment had always made me curious so, I ve taken all mine apart.I've had several of these late 80's VH1's and have yet to find a ceramic magnet? I've taken them apart and all the ones I've had, have roughcast alnico magnets, like the old 50's style magnets. There black and unpolished on top and polished on the other side. unlike most modern alnico magents which are usually polished all around. As far as dc resistance. most were 8k-8.4k that I've had. Koubayashi, Do you have any you could post a pic of?


Great news
I?ve never heard a PU with ceramic magnets that I liked...

The guitar arrives tomorrow, so I?ll soon be able to find out how these sound
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NWOBHM
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PostPosted: Tue Dec 01, 2009 4:53 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I like them, alot of people do. I also like custom pickups like motor city blackbelts.
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PostPosted: Wed Dec 02, 2009 1:15 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

NWOBHM wrote:
I like them, alot of people do. I also like custom pickups like motor city blackbelts.


The Blackbelts are said to be among the best "PAF-style" PUs out there!
How woluld you describe the tone from the 2:nd generation VH-1s compared to the Blackbelts?
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PostPosted: Wed Dec 02, 2009 10:51 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

The later VH1's have a nice tight bottom, smooth top, the earlier VH1's are rounder, softer attack, more mids, less compressed and get cleaner when you turn down the volume. To me the Blackbelts have the best of both, tight bottom, smooth top but, they have the openess of the earlier VH1's, they clean up better. I like all 3 but, to me the Blackbelts have the best qualities of both in one.
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PostPosted: Thu Dec 03, 2009 12:30 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thanks, I received the guitar today and you desribed the sound of these pickups, spot on
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PostPosted: Thu Dec 03, 2009 11:02 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Your gonna have to post a pic! I've always wanted a 335 but, never got one! Hmm, maybe it's time to sell a Les Paul and get one.
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PostPosted: Fri Dec 04, 2009 2:43 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Haven?t got a camera at hand, but it?s like the sunburst model below:
Late 80?s /early 90?s RSA-100 in near mint condition, 60?s profile neck and these 2:nd generation VH-1 pu?s (Might try a set of Dry Z clones in it though)



Very nice indeed

Now I just need a Butterscotch Tele, and maybe yet another Les Paul...
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