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PostPosted: Mon Sep 21, 2009 2:39 am    Post subject: Need Your Opinions - Possible Chambered BLS-59 Reply with quote

This photo is one from a Yahoo auction for a Bacchus BLS-59V, and yeah he (or a previous owner) has done some odd things to the guitar, but is it chambered?!!! Have a look at this shot:

http://photos.yahoo.co.jp/ph/camp55nou/vwp?.dir=/72cf&.dnm=c567.jpg&.src=ph&.view=t&.hires=t

It might just be the shielding paint making it look like it's chambered, but it seems that one of the wires from the toggle switch goes off to the side under the wood?
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PostPosted: Mon Sep 21, 2009 4:48 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I guess it would have helped if I'd thought to put on the auction link as well.

Ok, here it is:
http://www.rinkya.com/twview.pl?URL=http://page8.auctions.yahoo.co.jp/jp/auction/h134225914

I'm not a buyer on this one, just interested in what I believe to be a chambered Vintage Series LP from Bacchus.
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PostPosted: Mon Sep 21, 2009 6:33 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Do you have a buyer in Japan? if you do ask him to get front pickup cavity shots, i have never seen a hole that big for the switch but i suppose its possible. To me it looks like its chambered but hose shots aren't that good.

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PostPosted: Mon Sep 21, 2009 7:46 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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PostPosted: Mon Sep 21, 2009 11:30 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

leadguitar_323 wrote:
Do you have a buyer in Japan? if you do ask him to get front pickup cavity shots, i have never seen a hole that big for the switch but i suppose its possible. To me it looks like its chambered but hose shots aren't that good.

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Nah, no buyer in Japan, and Rinkya doesn't allow you to ask for photos. Could just be a big hole for the toggle switch area to lower the weight slightly - definitely done in the factory. Weird one.
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PostPosted: Mon Sep 21, 2009 11:39 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

MIJvintage wrote:
Here are two images of the toggle route from my BLS-59.


That is what I expected the toggle route to look like, and AFAIK that's what the route should look like on the BLS-59.

MIJvintage wrote:
The seller?s item has no serial number on the head stock
One more thing; if you look at the body back photo that the seller has listed, you will see it has a center seam.

AFA I know the BLS-59 is a 1 piece body.
Draw your own conclusions from my posted observations & info; I know what my conclusion is ??????


So what is it?
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PostPosted: Thu Oct 15, 2009 2:27 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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The seller?s item has no serial number on the head stock
One more thing; if you look at the body back photo that the seller has listed, you will see it has a center seam.


AFA I know the BLS-59 is a 1 piece body.
Draw your own conclusions from my posted observations & info; I know what my conclusion is ??????
I didn't get to see the auction before it ended but, For what it's worth. I 've seen a couple older BLS-59's from the 90's that didn't have serial numbers, had 2 piece backs and sported a trans-tenon neck joint as opposed tro the longer ones seen on later models.
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PostPosted: Thu Oct 15, 2009 7:37 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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MIJvintage wrote:



The seller?s item has no serial number on the head stock
One more thing; if you look at the body back photo that the seller has listed, you will see it has a center seam.


AFA I know the BLS-59 is a 1 piece body.
Draw your own conclusions from my posted observations & info; I know what my conclusion is ??????
I didn't get to see the auction before it ended but, For what it's worth. I 've seen a couple older BLS-59's from the 90's that didn't have serial numbers, had 2 piece backs and sported a trans-tenon neck joint as opposed tro the longer ones seen on later models.


I have an early BLS-120 from the 90's before being called BLS-59...it has a serial of 100xxx and nitro and 1 piece back, a real King Burst!
I will post pics etc in a new thread....soon.
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PostPosted: Thu Oct 15, 2009 8:09 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

BLS-120 and BLS59 are 2 different guitars, they were being produced at the same time.
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I didn't get to see the auction before it ended but, For what it's worth. I 've seen a couple older BLS-59's from the 90's that didn't have serial numbers, had 2 piece backs and sported a trans-tenon neck joint as opposed tro the longer ones seen on later models.


Mine is exactly the same as what you've described ......including the no serial number.

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PostPosted: Thu Oct 15, 2009 9:24 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

leadguitar_323 wrote:
BLS-120 and BLS59 are 2 different guitars, they were being produced at the same time.
Mick


.......really,
The 1998 catalog shows only BLS-120, no mention of BLS-59......
My guitar is 1998 also....
http://bacchusdo.com/ctlgs.htm
I have contacted Deviser for more information anyway. My guitar BLS-120 is made from about 1994 to 1999? then BLS-59 comes along....
Anyway, I will wait for word from those actually know...
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PostPosted: Thu Oct 15, 2009 10:22 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Listen dickhead if you are going to answer posts in that manner everytime i post something you won't be here long. You probably won't see the 59's in the catalogues at all, i have seen a few and they didn't contain any pics or info on the 59's. These guitars were spawned from the demand for custom orders being made for a couple of other companies like Sonix. They were making 120's right up until they changed the headstock shape which was later than this. If you continue to carry on like a clown, every thread you do this in will be closed. Remember mate you are the one that refused to come good an a dodgey deal and got the sh1ts when you were outed...truth hurts eh.... As for your "personal" remark in the last thread you cried to the mods about, and had closed, when you come on giving expert advice on things you don't know yourself and have only been told and have bugger all experience with be prepared to be called out. I have met lots of guys like you over the years and your biggest mistake is thinking you know all and everyone else knows squat, Ever read "the art of war".?
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PostPosted: Thu Oct 15, 2009 10:38 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

leadguitar_323 wrote:
Listen dickhead if you are going to answer posts in that manner everytime i post something you won't be here long. You probably won't see the 59's in the catalogues at all, i have seen a few and they didn't contain any pics or info on the 59's. These guitars were spawned from the demand for custom orders being made for a couple of other companies like Sonix. They were making 120's right up until they changed the headstock shape which was later than this. If you continue to carry on like a clown, every thread you do this in will be closed. Remember mate you are the one that refused to come good an a dodgey deal and got the sh1ts when you were outed...truth hurts eh.... As for your "personal" remark in the last thread you cried to the mods about, and had closed, when you come on giving expert advice on things you don't know yourself and have only been told and have bugger all experience with be prepared to be called out. I have met lots of guys like you over the years and your biggest mistake is thinking you know all and everyone else knows squat, Ever read "the art of war".?
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wow......really?.......dickhead?
I can comment as I please, if you don't like it, you have the problem, and it is you who is attacking me.
I can contact Deviser and get word from those that actually know history about their guitars, I don't not need you to be judge and jury.
So I will wait for the reply from those that actually know
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PostPosted: Thu Oct 15, 2009 11:36 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Oh you can can you? My comment is what i know to be correct, your comment was smart, well you were trying to be smart. You are really pissed off because i caught you out as a liar and a deceiver , selling someone a guitar that it wasn't then refusing to rectify the problem, this seems to be your problem mate and i think that the forum deserves to know what you have done so remember YOU DID IT SO YOU ARE JUDGED BY THAT. Stratman had the exact same thing, he was ripped off by someone misrepresenting their guitar, he copped the same thing.
As far as Deviser goes ...good luck, they don't regularly reply and i doubt they will give you any insight. On the other hand i get my info of guys that work for deviser so i don't have to put up with the politically correct company line, and for your info i have already been in contact with Bacchus.
I also help heaps of guys with correct info on a lot of stuff from Bacchus< Edwards, Tokai and others and there are plenty of guys here that already know that, i have absolutely nothing to prove to you and it doesn't surprise me that you are trying to play the victim....what a joke...
You may interested to know that your other account is still functioning, another lie eh....Your arrogance leads you to believe that no one is smart enough to work you out, well guess what mate..

Go look up the definition of an "attack" mate its a lot different that outing someone based on what they have done....and remember , you started this crap....

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PostPosted: Fri Oct 16, 2009 6:49 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

leadguitar_323 wrote:
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I can comment as I please, if you don't like it, you have the problem


Oh you can can you? My comment is what i know to be correct, your comment was smart, well you were trying to be smart. You are really pissed off because i caught you out as a liar and a deceiver , selling someone a guitar that it wasn't then refusing to rectify the problem, this seems to be your problem mate and i think that the forum deserves to know what you have done so remember YOU DID IT SO YOU ARE JUDGED BY THAT. Stratman had the exact same thing, he was ripped off by someone misrepresenting their guitar, he copped the same thing.
As far as Deviser goes ...good luck, they don't regularly reply and i doubt they will give you any insight. On the other hand i get my info of guys that work for deviser so i don't have to put up with the politically correct company line, and for your info i have already been in contact with Bacchus.
I also help heaps of guys with correct info on a lot of stuff from Bacchus< Edwards, Tokai and others and there are plenty of guys here that already know that, i have absolutely nothing to prove to you and it doesn't surprise me that you are trying to play the victim....what a joke...
You may interested to know that your other account is still functioning, another lie eh....Your arrogance leads you to believe that no one is smart enough to work you out, well guess what mate..

Go look up the definition of an "attack" mate its a lot different that outing someone based on what they have done....and remember , you started this crap....

Mick


....wow...what a looney.... ....i have pm'ed Ned..about the other account......and what business is it of yours...you dickhead.......
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PostPosted: Fri Oct 16, 2009 3:19 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Its everyones business when you lie and rip off a fellow forum member mate,
amongst all your ramblings you have never once addressed this issue, and that makes it a forum issue, i see you have been crying to Ned again.....get over yourself ......

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