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Fender JV-115 ....omg!
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PostPosted: Mon Jun 29, 2009 3:28 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

thats a prettyhigh price in Japan for a 115, the reason is because of the colour, 3TS was very very rare for 115's, as was fiesta Red, then after that you get the custom ordered colour 115's which have an ''O'' in the neck pocket rather than an ''A'' now those are really rare....

ST-100's are higher spec than JV-115's, but specs on JV-115's and ST-80's are essentially the same, but they are really very different neck shapes, also theres a big difference between the dimarzio E's and the fender PU's, and the fender grey backed and red backed are rarer and more valued than the black backed, with the red commanding a premium over the grey, even though they seem exactly the same except the bobbin colour...

...the grey and red bobbon ones were original fullerton made and date stamped, these were in JV's till mid/late 82, then they started using the black bobbins instead..
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PostPosted: Mon Jun 29, 2009 3:58 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

mr.masatoshi satoh huh.....wonder where he is today?

佐藤 正敏 ........his name. written som like this maybe.......
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PostPosted: Mon Jun 29, 2009 4:06 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

villager wrote:
thats a prettyhigh price in Japan for a 115, the reason is because of the colour, 3TS was very very rare for 115's, as was fiesta Red


Really? I thought 3TS was the most common colour? What was the most common colour then?
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PostPosted: Mon Jun 29, 2009 4:12 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

two tone sunburst, black, white, candy apple red, fiesta red, 3 tone sunburst in that approx order...for the 115's...

fiesta red and 3 tone sunburst are pretty rare in the other models too...
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PostPosted: Mon Jun 29, 2009 4:15 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Surely the JVs were historically accurate regarding colours even though Tokai were not? So 3TS on the RW board models, 2TS on the maples? Which should mean that both SBs are equally common?

If white 115s are common, I'll have two please.
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PostPosted: Mon Jun 29, 2009 4:20 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

115's are not common in any colour!!
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PostPosted: Mon Jun 29, 2009 5:55 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

villager wrote:
115's are not common in any colour!!


OK, but I still don't understand why 3TS is less common than 2TS. Unless there were more 57s than 62s?
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PostPosted: Mon Jun 29, 2009 6:00 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

i dont understand why either, but in my experience they just are..

thats the only 3TS 115 I have seen, whereas I have seen 6 or more 2TS 115's

I dont know if thats a reflection of the production, or just the way that the ones that have come up for sale...


I dont know whether Fender JV stuck to the original fender colouring either... I see no reason why they should have, heh but no reason why they shouldn't have either...

so much not known...
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PostPosted: Mon Jun 29, 2009 6:20 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

villager wrote:
thats the only 3TS 115 I have seen, whereas I have seen 6 or more 2TS 115's

I dont know if thats a reflection of the production, or just the way that the ones that have come up for sale...



OK, well were the 2TS ones all 57s - maple board?
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PostPosted: Mon Jun 29, 2009 6:39 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

In the few years I've been checking digimart, I have seen only a hand full of 115s, rose' & maple boards

underneath had a 115-62 about three/four months ago that was a dead ringer for the 3-color in the original link

I was never a big fan of the JVs because of the hype & the associated higher than (IMO) warranted prices

sure, they are the very first incarnation of Japanese Fenders but there are later examples of MIJ Fenders that are just as good, yet without the hyped up prices

I'm not knocking the JVs but I don't collect guitars to collect them but rather to play them

I don't understand why Fender Japan just didn't go ahead & do the very last bit of detail 'under the hood' and make the 115s completely & 100% clothe covered wiring, like these two early 90's examples.
http://www.tokaiforum.com/viewtopic.php?t=10827
These have just as much quality as the JVs but without the jacked up prices
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PostPosted: Mon Jun 29, 2009 8:01 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

i disagree rich, the early JV's sound better to me than any later fenders, and I play them too..

but its each to their own i suppose, after all you love burnys...
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PostPosted: Mon Jun 29, 2009 9:53 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

villager wrote:
i disagree rich, the early JV's sound better to me than any later fenders, and I play them too..

but its each to their own i suppose, after all you love burnys...



yep, I likes me some Burny RLGs; played a couple this morning (and a couple Bacchus BLS models too) but the LS-320 is waaaaaaaaay back in the back of the Lester pile so, it will be a while before I get to it

I'm going thru the Strat pile as I type, with a white Bacchus BST-64V in hand

On a different note; what do you think a nice pair of Dry Z pups would sound like in the LS-320
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PostPosted: Mon Jun 29, 2009 10:40 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

better than the seth lovers...
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PostPosted: Mon Jun 29, 2009 10:57 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

MIJvintage wrote:
I'm not knocking the JVs but I don't collect guitars to collect them but rather to play them


Same here. For me, one is not mutually exclusive to the other.
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PostPosted: Mon Jun 29, 2009 11:25 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Well, I have a 62-115 with serialnumber JV001XX
It is dated April 19 (if I remember correctly).
Might be for sale since I am currently looking for an 82 Fullerton 62 Strat.
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