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New CITES Regulation for all Rosewood Dalbergia genus

Posted: Sat Dec 24, 2016 12:59 pm
by guitar hiro
effective January 2, 2017

https://reverb.com/news/new-cites-regul ... od-species

Happy New Year 2017 ?

Posted: Mon Dec 26, 2016 6:39 am
by ibicus
I've seen this in a guitar mag...great news I guess.This rosewood regulations are valid since 1992 but guitars that are dozens of years older are illegal now...95% of this wood has been abused for crappy furnitures but they f u c k guitar players for the fretboards...sick in the brain

Posted: Mon Dec 26, 2016 1:28 pm
by guitar hiro
the below letter from US Fish & Wildlife Service I believe explains quite a bit concerning the new regulations, as far as they apply to US citizens

https://www.fws.gov/international/pdf/l ... r-2016.pdf

could be different in other countries? don't know

will be interesting to see how these new regulations for importers & for exporters shapes up over the coming months

Posted: Mon Dec 26, 2016 4:39 pm
by cashcow
There's always ebony and maple

Posted: Mon Dec 26, 2016 8:30 pm
by guitar hiro
nothing wrong ebony or maple but my favorite guitars have some form of rosewood 'boards :)

Posted: Tue Dec 27, 2016 2:31 pm
by cashcow
You got about 7 days before the isht hits the fan

Posted: Tue Dec 27, 2016 6:57 pm
by cashcow

Posted: Tue Dec 27, 2016 7:07 pm
by guitar hiro
cocobolo is an interesting lumber; could easily be mistaken for about any Dalbergia genus rosewood by any Customs official from any country :)

It also states, "Shipping restriction: We cannot ship these items outside of the US."

gotta wonder wasup wit dat :lol:

Posted: Sun Jan 15, 2017 8:42 am
by guitar hiro
been waiting to see how this shakes out for importers within the US; I have read several reports of US importers having no issues, so far :)

glad to hear this 8) and hope it continues

Posted: Mon Jan 16, 2017 8:21 am
by guitar hiro
good news for my first import of 2017; was in US Custom less than 6 hours then released to USPS :)


just to update:

the guitar was in the USPS facility for 24 hours & released to in transit to delivery destination

a total of less than 30 hours combined between a short stay in US customs & a USPS facility = not bad at all :P

Posted: Wed Jan 18, 2017 11:32 am
by guitar hiro
picked up my first Dalbergia import of the year from the Post Office early this morning

< 6 days from (EMS) posting in Japan to delivery in the US; no customs duty & no CITES issues :D

I am relieved to say the least

if the new CITES regulation for all genus Dalbergia is going to be an issue, it isn't an issue yet

good luck to others that import; YMMV

Posted: Thu Jan 19, 2017 1:46 am
by GET THE LED OUT
I've just contacted Vanessa at Rinkya regarding shipping to Australia. She said they are monitoring the situation, and so far no problems. She also said that acoustic guitars are more likely to be affected than electrics...at this stage.

Posted: Thu Jan 19, 2017 12:02 pm
by guitar hiro
GET THE LED OUT wrote:I've just contacted Vanessa at Rinkya regarding shipping to Australia. She said they are monitoring the situation, and so far no problems. She also said that acoustic guitars are more likely to be affected than electrics...at this stage.

that is good to know & thanks for contributing to the thread

my guitar came from Rinkya; odd thing is I didn't say a word to Rinkya about the new CITES regulations & they said nothing to me concerning it

I do have another guitar in their Tokyo warehouse that needs to be shipped to me here in the US :o

Posted: Wed Feb 08, 2017 1:07 pm
by guitar hiro
my second Dalbergia import of the year has cleared US Customs :D

two 4 two in 2017 :P

Posted: Wed Feb 08, 2017 2:16 pm
by wulfman
And what kind of guitar is holding some Dalbergia? :D