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...all you people in the UK, anyone want to give me advice on claiming off the council, long story short me and my motorbike took a trip down the road on a road that hadn't been gritted OUTSIDE A POLICE STATION MAIN ENTERANCE, the cop who came out when he heard the crash couldnt stand on the road to redirect traffic due to the severity of the black ice

The fall resulted in light damage to the bike but with me in hospital for a week with multiple fractures to my skull and needing a craniotomy to repair the main fracture to my "synal wall?", most of my bike gear is destroyed and im on the sick til mid march, fell off on the 6th December

Any advice would be great
 
Best advice I can give is go and see a good solicitor. Don't take leagal advice from guitarists, or anyone on the internet for that matter.

Hope you make a full recovery, very soon!!
 
modland said:
...all you people in the UK, anyone want to give me advice on claiming off the council, long story short me and my motorbike took a trip down the road on a road that hadn't been gritted OUTSIDE A POLICE STATION MAIN ENTERANCE, the cop who came out when he heard the crash couldnt stand on the road to redirect traffic due to the severity of the black ice

The fall resulted in light damage to the bike but with me in hospital for a week with multiple fractures to my skull and needing a craniotomy to repair the main fracture to my "synal wall?", most of my bike gear is destroyed and im on the sick til mid march, fell off on the 6th December

Any advice would be great
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Not to be the devil's advocate but:


Wear a helmet.

As a motorcycle owner and rider for years, it's the most effective way to keep from ending up as an organ donor. You lucked out this time - next time you might not be so lucky. Skulls have a tendency to crack like eggs when they meet concrete - ice or no ice - there's nothing between you and the ground and you don't have several hundred pounds of metal and plastic surrounding you like a car.

My question is, sanded or not, what are you doing riding a motorcyle in icy conditions or even the possibility of ice? You can't expect every inch (and that's all it takes to lose traction) to be sanded. As you said, you can't see ice like you can snow or wet pavement.

God's speed to you and hoping you heal up quickly.
 
JohnA said:
Best advice I can give is go and see a good solicitor. Don't take leagal advice from guitarists, or anyone on the internet for that matter.

Hope you make a full recovery, very soon!!
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+1.

A successful claim could be worth a few ?s, so the Council & their insurers will defend it - you'll need a solicitor experienced in these matters to represent you.

I assume you were wearing a crash helmet? It's been compulsory to wear one for years, so I find it hard to believe you were so unwise to dispense with your only real protection?

Mike
 
I had a motorcycle accident in 1982, i was wearing a full face helmet and still ended up with a fractured scull and a broken jaw..... :eek:
Get yourself a good solicitor who deals in traffic accidents.

Mick
 
I still go back to the issue of riding in icy conditions.....not a motorcyle rider I know would ever take that kind of risk - helmet or not.
 
Well let's be fair here Marcus - ice isn't quite as bad a problem in Dallas as it is in the north of England! Life still has to go on when it gets a bit nippy.....
 
Well let's be fair here Marcus - ice isn't quite as bad a problem in Dallas as it is in the north of England! Life still has to go on when it gets a bit nippy.....
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Really? Have a peek at this:

http://www.srh.noaa.gov/fwd/feb25pics.htm

At the slightest mention of freezing precipitation, the scooter should be kept in the garage or you take a risk. You can be the best rider in the world but you can't stop the idiot in the car who isn't that will run over you.
 
Hey all again, as stated, its the law to wear helmets nowadays, and I dont bou cheap gear, as a hobby I do downhill mountain biking and understand the value of safety gear.

That week following upto the saturday was icy, and on the saturday it was clear (so i believed) my road was white every day apart from saturday, there is nowhere for me to park my car near work, only place i can costs 7 pounds a day which covers me til half 4 and i dont finish work til half five and dont get out til after 6, but as some may know, motorbikes can park for free,

I know by riding in bad weather it's pushing the risks but truthfully I class myself as a careful rider, and I ride every day of the year just abouts, not trying to justify anything but like I said, even the cop who came out said the road was dangerous, bike or car, the end of the road slopes to a t junction where cars regularly come the other way.


as for injuries and damage to gear etc, (pre and post op)

http://www.facebook.com/album.php?aid=79385&l=79e80&id=715752657

If your not fond of blood or fresh staples etc don't click
 
:cry: Ouch! That's not good - you need a solicitor! I believe some will work on a "no win - no fee" basis (a US thing, I think). That way, you don't pay a fee upfront, BUT they tend to keep about a third of your winnings if you win.

Whether that's a good option for you is a decision only you can make. Good luck, either way.
 
Ouch John!! You didn't half do some damage!! The main thing is you're still here, but good luck getting some compensation, you deserve it!
 
So sorry to hear about your crash, and I hope everything goes well with your recovery.

I can understand you wanting to discuss it here as I've had two serious bike accidents when I was younger and have a good idea how you're feeling. First of all, seek out the 'best' solicitor in your area and get his opinion. If you don't know how to find who they are, contact your local biker groups and you should eventually locate the right one.

No case is ever black and white and so the judge will usually apportion blame in degree to both parties. How they arrive at that judgement depends on the council's duty of care and forseeability of hazard, your own risk/competence and loads of other factors. That's why I think you need the best solicitor. The no-win/no-fee guy is not usually a specialist and they sometimes impart a negative view if the case is complex and some victims end up aborting the idea of civil action after seeing one of these guys.

I remember that weather early December and there was one morning when it caught everyone out. Local press and news around here were fielding complaints from the public, you could look into that through local news archives BBC etc. They had our Head Gritter on the telly the other night, sanitised Council PR promo and it would seem that, round West Yorkshire anyway, the gritters have only just got into full swing after Christmas.

I do think you need some evidence of the Council's failure. To help prove some element of forseeability on their part, there were Met Office weather warnings that particular week. The key factor for you will be your speed prior to losing it. I've rode all through many winters and I could only do ice on a 250cc, no bigger, at a fast walking pace.

Good Luck John, all things must pass.
 
I know what you mean, I was doing literally 15mph, the bike travelled quite a distance but there is minimal damage due to the ice.

Like I stated before a police office (name known) came out when he heard the bike hit the floor, and when he spoke to my family, stated that I definately wouldnt of seen the ice, and that the council hadn't gritted it that day (if i remeber right, and at the moment my memory is really bad, i cant remember christmas or new year), i'm sure he'd give a statement on the road condition, and out of any possible witness, i think that i couldnt do any better

Thanks for everyone getting intouch, i'm losing the plot being stuck at home and just feel I need to get the ball rolling some point soon, the joys of the internet huh
 
no idea, might be one at the end of the road, or viewing out from the police station, i've not looked, but theres a car park at the end of the road (where I park, typical) so I guess i'll have a look on my next passing
 
Agreed - hope you make a quick and full recovery. Seems there are a few more than I thought from the North East.

Dave
 
modland said:
no idea, might be one at the end of the road, or viewing out from the police station, i've not looked, but theres a car park at the end of the road (where I park, typical) so I guess i'll have a look on my next passing
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Definitely would be one out front of the police office. Have a look and if so, get the video before they "lose" it.
 

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