ST70 Springy in Metallic Green

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ST70 Springy in Metallic Green

Post by Sigmania » Tue Sep 28, 2021 1:45 am

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Re: ST70 Springy in Metallic Green

Post by guitar hiro » Tue Sep 28, 2021 8:23 am

unusual color for sure but something seems a bit off about that one; at least to my eyes

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Re: ST70 Springy in Metallic Green

Post by Sigmania » Tue Sep 28, 2021 9:57 am

Interesting that it has the brass ground plate on a tortoise shell pick guard? Does the plate detach or is that a factory pick guard?
That’s alright ‘cause I still got my guitar… ‘79 LS80 GT Reborn, '79 ST100 Springy, '81 LS100S Hog, '81 ST70R Slab Springy, ‘81 ST80R V Neck Springy, '81 TE120 Arabesque Breezy, '82 LS120 Solid Flame, '82 JB45R Jazz Sounds, ‘84 ST70 Gold Star Maple Cap

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Re: ST70 Springy in Metallic Green

Post by guitar hiro » Tue Sep 28, 2021 11:12 am

my previous comment was in reference to the neck; namely the fingerboard

even if I were interested in such an example, which I am not, there are way too many anomalies there for my tastes

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Re: ST70 Springy in Metallic Green

Post by Sigmania » Tue Sep 28, 2021 11:30 am

Gotcha. Cliff has an ST65 in metallic green with the maple fingerboard.

https://www.flickr.com/photos/147832065 ... 6953920808

With this one, it is odd to see a handwritten code in the neck pocket as well as a "D" stamp on the end of the fretboard....

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That’s alright ‘cause I still got my guitar… ‘79 LS80 GT Reborn, '79 ST100 Springy, '81 LS100S Hog, '81 ST70R Slab Springy, ‘81 ST80R V Neck Springy, '81 TE120 Arabesque Breezy, '82 LS120 Solid Flame, '82 JB45R Jazz Sounds, ‘84 ST70 Gold Star Maple Cap

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Re: ST70 Springy in Metallic Green

Post by Sigmania » Tue Sep 28, 2021 11:31 am

Hard to read. It may say ST70S.

I believe many of us now believe the "S" is for Special and not Solid on the LS100S. Could this be a one off?
That’s alright ‘cause I still got my guitar… ‘79 LS80 GT Reborn, '79 ST100 Springy, '81 LS100S Hog, '81 ST70R Slab Springy, ‘81 ST80R V Neck Springy, '81 TE120 Arabesque Breezy, '82 LS120 Solid Flame, '82 JB45R Jazz Sounds, ‘84 ST70 Gold Star Maple Cap

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Re: ST70 Springy in Metallic Green

Post by guitar hiro » Tue Sep 28, 2021 12:54 pm

IMO anything is possible with MIJ :lol: but there are just too many curve balls with this example

like the slab board fingerboard; that has to be a first for my eyes but then, I'm no Springy expert

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Re: ST70 Springy in Metallic Green

Post by Sigmania » Tue Sep 28, 2021 1:01 pm

What do you think the "D" might mean? I was thinking Discard or Defect? I have seen that somewhere before but can't remember where.

Wondering if it is basically a partscaster?
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That’s alright ‘cause I still got my guitar… ‘79 LS80 GT Reborn, '79 ST100 Springy, '81 LS100S Hog, '81 ST70R Slab Springy, ‘81 ST80R V Neck Springy, '81 TE120 Arabesque Breezy, '82 LS120 Solid Flame, '82 JB45R Jazz Sounds, ‘84 ST70 Gold Star Maple Cap

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Re: ST70 Springy in Metallic Green

Post by Sigmania » Tue Sep 28, 2021 1:03 pm

Here is an "E" stamp and a mention of a "D" stamp by you in 2018..... 8)

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"....did we ever figure out what the D stamp was on the very end of the fingerboards, on a very few vintage LS examples?

I don't recall that mystery ever being laid to rest"

mono

"The consensus seemed to be "Demo" so perhaps they were used at exhibitions/shows or in catalogs..."

http://www.tokaiforum.com/viewtopic.php?t=24641
That’s alright ‘cause I still got my guitar… ‘79 LS80 GT Reborn, '79 ST100 Springy, '81 LS100S Hog, '81 ST70R Slab Springy, ‘81 ST80R V Neck Springy, '81 TE120 Arabesque Breezy, '82 LS120 Solid Flame, '82 JB45R Jazz Sounds, ‘84 ST70 Gold Star Maple Cap

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Re: ST70 Springy in Metallic Green

Post by Sigmania » Tue Sep 28, 2021 1:08 pm

Maybe it is actually a one off for trade shows?
That’s alright ‘cause I still got my guitar… ‘79 LS80 GT Reborn, '79 ST100 Springy, '81 LS100S Hog, '81 ST70R Slab Springy, ‘81 ST80R V Neck Springy, '81 TE120 Arabesque Breezy, '82 LS120 Solid Flame, '82 JB45R Jazz Sounds, ‘84 ST70 Gold Star Maple Cap

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Re: ST70 Springy in Metallic Green

Post by Sigmania » Tue Sep 28, 2021 2:59 pm

The one Cliff has is an ST65. It has the maple fretboard. U pickups.

Not sure why this one is an ST70 if we believe the writing in the neck pickup rout. Has E pickups. Tortoise shell pick guard.
That’s alright ‘cause I still got my guitar… ‘79 LS80 GT Reborn, '79 ST100 Springy, '81 LS100S Hog, '81 ST70R Slab Springy, ‘81 ST80R V Neck Springy, '81 TE120 Arabesque Breezy, '82 LS120 Solid Flame, '82 JB45R Jazz Sounds, ‘84 ST70 Gold Star Maple Cap

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Re: ST70 Springy in Metallic Green

Post by guitar hiro » Tue Sep 28, 2021 6:13 pm

I have never seen a single example of a Springy with a slab board fingerboard; not a single example, until this one

curious .......

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Re: ST70 Springy in Metallic Green

Post by Sigmania » Tue Sep 28, 2021 7:21 pm

Here are the colors listed on the Faber site for Springys/Goldstars. Note the MG with a rosewood fretboard.


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That’s alright ‘cause I still got my guitar… ‘79 LS80 GT Reborn, '79 ST100 Springy, '81 LS100S Hog, '81 ST70R Slab Springy, ‘81 ST80R V Neck Springy, '81 TE120 Arabesque Breezy, '82 LS120 Solid Flame, '82 JB45R Jazz Sounds, ‘84 ST70 Gold Star Maple Cap

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Re: ST70 Springy in Metallic Green

Post by CliffsComicWorld » Tue Sep 28, 2021 8:19 pm

Only the Tokai ST-70 had a rosewood slab fretboard. Even my ST-100’s have veneer rosewood fretboards
Slab finger boards were used on a Fender Strats from 1959-62.

https://flic.kr/p/2mvyc1j

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Re: ST70 Springy in Metallic Green

Post by Sigmania » Wed Sep 29, 2021 11:11 am

Sold. 8)
That’s alright ‘cause I still got my guitar… ‘79 LS80 GT Reborn, '79 ST100 Springy, '81 LS100S Hog, '81 ST70R Slab Springy, ‘81 ST80R V Neck Springy, '81 TE120 Arabesque Breezy, '82 LS120 Solid Flame, '82 JB45R Jazz Sounds, ‘84 ST70 Gold Star Maple Cap

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