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Orville Les Paul model heel caps used in neck to body joints

Post by Freebird » Sat Nov 13, 2010 4:10 pm

Would I be correct stating that: only the top end Les Paul Reissues (manufactured close to 1959 Gibson specs during the late 1992 to early 1995 time period) do not utilize heel caps, and that most (if not all) of the rest of the ObG and Orville Les Paul model guitars utilize a heel cap in their neck to body joint construction?

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Post by soundcreation » Sat Nov 13, 2010 8:36 pm

well...I know my 89 by gibson g serial number terrada made, has one.

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Post by Mono » Sat Nov 13, 2010 9:48 pm

Are we talking about that anamalous darkburst that cropped up a few days ago and that sold?

I think it must be an '88 ObG Standard and I guess they didn't have enough mahogany in that day, so used a heel-cap... :D

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Post by Freebird » Sat Nov 13, 2010 10:21 pm

I just wondering in general, not about any specific guitar.

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Post by Mono » Sun Nov 14, 2010 7:25 am

Well, apart from that one I mentioned, I had not seen a heel-cap on any ObGs before then. And I don't think they regularly appear on Orvilles either..

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Post by Freebird » Sun Nov 14, 2010 11:26 am

Here's one of the few that I've come across that doesn't have the heel cap:

http://imageevent.com/chingo123/october ... sflame5502

Most look something like this:

http://cgi.ebay.com/Orville-Gibson-Les- ... 255ed20160

or this:

http://cgi.ebay.com/Orville-Gibson-Les- ... 1c1709bd0d

or this:

http://imageevent.com/chingo123/novembe ... elpssb5578

Seems to me that the heel cap is a cost saving measure -in the neck construction a smaller piece of wood can be used for the neck - just add the cap to the neck before inserting into the body. Is the use of the heel cap a function of Fujigen or Terada manufacture? I'm not sure if it really makes any difference in the strength of the joint or the performance of the guitar.

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Post by Freebird » Sun Nov 14, 2010 1:12 pm

Based on my review of numerous incredibly informative posts by Japanstrat, I would conclude that it is rare to find a neck heel cap on a Fujigen made ObG or Orville Les Paul. That said, I also conclude that it is much more usual, and very common, to find a neck heel cap on a Terada made ObG or Orville Les Paul. Thank you Japanstrat.
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Post by 3pupLPC » Sun Nov 14, 2010 3:50 pm

I just sold a '93 Terada made OBG REISSUE (FEB binding, etc) with a heelcap.
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Orville Les Paul model heel caps used in neck to body joints

Post by Joop » Tue Nov 23, 2010 9:45 am

Hi,

For what it's worth, I have never seen a Fujigen Orville or by Gibson with the heel joint, only on Terrada guitars. I have just read that I am not the only one to think so...

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Post by scooticus » Mon Dec 06, 2010 1:13 pm

My '95 Orville (not OBG) LPS goldtop, Fujigen build, has no heel cap.
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Post by Axchisler » Wed Dec 08, 2010 3:45 am

My 94 OBG has no heel cap, for that matter neither do my Tokai LS100 or LS230, fyi.

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Post by Freebird » Wed Dec 08, 2010 9:41 am

Axchisler wrote:My 94 OBG has no heel cap, for that matter neither do my Tokai LS100 or LS230, fyi.
Fujigen or Terada serial number?

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Post by Axchisler » Wed Dec 08, 2010 11:06 pm

Fujigen

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Post by Ibnose » Tue Dec 14, 2010 10:03 pm

I have a '96 fuji-gen orville goldtop, it has a 2 piece seam-centred back and no heel cap. Most of the Terada made ObGs that I have seen have the heel cap and 3 piece backs.

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