orvilles vs gibson LP standard

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Post by mrsuspend » Tue Dec 16, 2008 5:05 am

I think the problem is pine grows quick and straight so making decent plank wood in a very short time. But for quality you have to wait at least 50 years for the wood to "set" and there's just no money in it. :(

This is starting to feel more than a little bit OT... sorry... :oops:

EDIT: Also nowadays wood is force dried which leaves it much brittler that letting it dry naturally (which takes a few years).
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Post by leadguitar_323 » Tue Dec 16, 2008 5:06 am

We live in a disposable world now Mike, nothing is made to last any more... :cry:

so many guitars....so little money...

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Post by japanstrat » Tue Dec 16, 2008 8:21 am

With Gibson and Japanese comparisons you can only compare the higher priced Japanese guitars.

A regular Gibson Standard pre chambering had a short tenon and nitro and was say around 300,000 Yen in Japan. Compare that with these top of the line OBG's and notice the price.

LPS-QM 228000 Les Paul Standard Quilted Maple '57 Classic (USA) CS,VS,LD (no pickguard)
LPS-FM 198000 Les Paul Standard Flame Maple Top '57 Classic (USA) CS,VS,LD (no pickguard)


Guitars are like cars or whatever. A no frills K Orville is not as cosmetically pleasing as a G serial OBG but they are made from the same wood basically. The number of wood pieces don't matter that much in terms of sound. What about a 3 piece guitar made from 3 great sounding pieces of wood then a 3 piece guitar made from 2 pieces of great sounding wood and one piece that's not that great sounding then a one piece guitar made from not that great sounding wood. It's all a bit random. Terada can't test every piece of wood for sonic greatness so it's a mixed bag for the high end and the low end. Some K Orvilles with changed pickups would sound great and some G serial OBG's might not sound as great as you would expect. If someone pays a higher price for something than they might be tempted to imagine a better tone because they want something for their money.


Post by stratman323 » Tue Dec 16, 2008 11:05 am

All very true. I know people stress the quality of wood and craftsmanship on Japanese guitars, but I reckon it's more to do with quality control than anything else - they are just too fussy to let the sub-standard stuff onto the market. There's good evidence to suggest it's the same with cars too.

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