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Someone is going to get taken...

Post by Gasp100 » Sun Nov 30, 2008 3:28 pm

Oh well. I posted a little about this guitar (and this sh*tty ebay sc*mb*g seller). I used to own this guitar, I got ripped off and it was in bad shape. I cleaned it up well and it actually got to playing pretty well, but not what you'd expect after hearing such glowing things about old Greco's.
Anyway, this jackoff bought it from me sold AS-IS. I explained everything perfectly and the pr*ck basically forced me into a partial $100 refund to replace the tuners. So, he ended up paying $375.
A week later, he flips it on ebay for a LOT more apparently and didn't do ONE DAMN thing with the $100 to fix the guitar.
Save your money....

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?Vi ... 0316772840

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Post by leadguitar_323 » Sun Nov 30, 2008 5:14 pm

Go and leave him some crap feedback.....he deserves it... :evil:

Mick
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Post by Dave_Mc » Mon Dec 01, 2008 10:32 am

that sucks, i'm sorry to hear that :(

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Post by marcusnieman » Mon Dec 01, 2008 11:04 am

leadguitar_323 wrote:Go and leave him some crap feedback.....he deserves it... :evil:

Mick
I don't think eBay allows negative feedback for buyers any more.

stratman323

Post by stratman323 » Mon Dec 01, 2008 12:42 pm

No, sellers can't leave negative feedback any more.

Mike

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Post by marcusnieman » Mon Dec 01, 2008 12:52 pm

stratman323 wrote:No, sellers can't leave negative feedback any more.

Mike
That's what I meant - a seller can't leave negative (or neutral) feedback for a buyer anymore. :wink:

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Post by 20 century boy » Mon Dec 01, 2008 1:57 pm

Anyone to buy it and leave a crappy feedback? :evil:


OOOps, that would be stupid... :oops: :lol:
nankurunai sa!

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Post by leadguitar_323 » Mon Dec 01, 2008 4:01 pm

I have been looking at stuff on ebay Australia and as far as i know you can still leave negative feedback on there..??

Mick
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Post by marcusnieman » Mon Dec 01, 2008 4:37 pm

leadguitar_323 wrote:I have been looking at stuff on ebay Australia and as far as i know you can still leave negative feedback on there..??

Mick
Directly from ebay:


Important changes to Feedback
Buyers, you can no longer receive negative or neutral Feedback from sellers.


You should leave honest and accurate Feedback without the fear of receiving negative or neutral ratings.

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Post by leadguitar_323 » Mon Dec 01, 2008 5:20 pm

Hi Marcus, all that says is that "sellers" can't leave negative feedback, buyers still can as far as i know. That is protecting buyers from unscrupulous sellers that reject negative feedback by turning it back on the buyer, just because they can.

Mick
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Post by marcusnieman » Mon Dec 01, 2008 5:56 pm

leadguitar_323 wrote:Hi Marcus, all that says is that "sellers" can't leave negative feedback, buyers still can as far as i know. That is protecting buyers from unscrupulous sellers that reject negative feedback by turning it back on the buyer, just because they can.

Mick
Thanks Mick....got that. But when you get a problem buyer as we all have at one time or another (late pay, insufficient funds, nitpicking the item as not being what he buyed while fully disclosed with description and photos, etc), the seller no longer has any recourse other than leaving no feedback at all - while the buyer can flame the seller for any reason he wants.

I always used to look at the buying history feedback comments of a bidder or winner of something I'm selling - gave me a better idea of what I'm dealing with. Now, that's gone......

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Post by soundcreation » Tue Dec 02, 2008 3:12 am

with all due respect....How does someone "force you" into a 100 dollar refund for the tuners?


He bought the guitar so why can't he sell it? I admit his ad is a bunch of bullshit with the "lawsuit" and such...but caveat emptor right?

If people don't want to get ripped off on japanese guitars than they should do their homework.

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Post by marcusnieman » Tue Dec 02, 2008 6:21 am

soundcreation wrote:with all due respect....How does someone "force you" into a 100 dollar refund for the tuners?

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If it's paid for with a credit card, they can dispute the charge with their bank and withold payment entirely until resolved or come to an agreement on an adjustment to the charge.

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Post by JohnA » Tue Dec 02, 2008 7:56 am

soundcreation wrote:with all due respect....How does someone "force you" into a 100 dollar refund for the tuners?

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Some people just try it on!! If you sell quite a few guitars on ebay, your feedback profile is really important, if someone demands $100 and threatens to leave -ve feedback if they don't get it they have you over a barrel!!

I once sold a Fernandes Revival to someone in the US, who claimed the decal had been replaced (it hadn't) and demanded 50% of the purchace price in exchange for +ve feedback. I told him to bugger off, and return the guitar for a full refund. You could tell by his reaction that he wanted the guitar, but was basically trying to rob me!!

Ebay's policies are set up primarily to protect ebay, then the buyer, the poor sellers get a rough deal, and they are the ones paying for the service!

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Post by cryptozoo » Tue Dec 02, 2008 1:35 pm

This is pretty common practice on eBay these days, it seems. Your only other option would've been to offer him a full refund in exchange for sending the guitar back, less shipping. Then you would've still had the guitar and the whole process would've eaten up a month (PayPal holds fees in cases like this, sometimes).

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