ATTENTION Springy, Breezy and Silverstar owners

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ATTENTION Springy, Breezy and Silverstar owners

Post by Peter Mac » Sun Jan 20, 2008 7:42 pm

Hi guys
DO YOU OWN A
1978 - 1981 Springy Sound or Breezysound
1978 - 1985 Silverstar.

I need your help by getting info on your guitar.

7 digit Serial No: eg 9001122
full Neck Stamp : eg 7=9a
full Body Stamp : eg 7=9 GS Z
Pickup code : eg U
Neck & Board : Rosewood

I have a pattern that needs info to complete
You can post your reply here or sent the info to my email - along with any pics you may want to attach.
petermcgau@yahoo.com.au
This info is of HIGH IMPORTANCE - those helping will be accredited for their input.
THE INFO WILL NOT BE DISCLOSED TO ANY OTHER PARTY - EVER!

many thanks
Peter Mac
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Post by settebello » Sun Jan 20, 2008 11:50 pm

Hi Peter,
i hope that helps.
1)0000188
2)5=8A
3)5=8=BL(no additional letter)
4)E-Stamp(Pickguard has a A-Stamp)
5)Rosewood/Skunkstripe

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Post by Peter Mac » Mon Jan 21, 2008 12:05 am

Merci Volker,
this is exactly the stuff i require.

As springys only had 2 styles of pickup (U & E) it is easier to tell the model this way.
The Blonde finish is pretty rare too

regards
Peter Mac
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Post by luis » Mon Jan 21, 2008 4:40 am

Some info on the way to you with pics as well my friend.

I would ask helping Peter, he is one of the piooneers posting on this forum and a truly Tokai Master.

Thanks for yout tuition and because teaching to me through the years we met here amigo! :wink:

stratman323

Post by stratman323 » Mon Jan 21, 2008 6:22 am

1980 Springy ST60
1 - 0014539
2 - 1 = 1
3 - YS X
4 - E - scratchplate is stamped A
5 - Rosewood, no skunk stripe

1980 Springy ST80
1 - 0010396
2 - 12=13 A
3 - 12=13 GS A
4 - E - scratchplate is stamped A
5 - Rosewood, no skunk stripe

Pics available on request. Hope this helps.

Mike

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Post by settebello » Mon Jan 21, 2008 6:30 am

Peter,
sorry forgot the modelnumber. :oops:
1980 Springy St100
Volker

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Post by Peter Mac » Wed Jan 23, 2008 7:40 pm

Hey guys
thanks for the info,

so far the response has been slow - if we are to get a proper understanding of the codes and serial # then i need as many guitars as possible listed.
I am concentrating on the 7-digit serial numbers to ascertain a Year.
SilverStars are the only "Fender" model that continued with this 7-digit system after 1982 so they are of special interest, but certainly the Springys are important to cross reference the markings.

Hope more members will get on board with this

Peter Mac
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Post by marc » Sun Jan 27, 2008 2:25 pm

Hi Peter
1981 Springy ST55n
1) 1024158
2) 1=3 (no additionnal letters)
3) 12=5 (no additionnal letters)
4) U stamped pickups
5) maple, with skunk stripes

I can send pictures on request

*after removing the neck lately, i need to correct something,
digits on the neck are in fact 12=5 and not 1=3 like the numbers in body cavities as previously stated.
sorry my mistake
Last edited by marc on Sun Mar 30, 2008 7:48 am, edited 2 times in total.
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Post by Peter Mac » Thu Feb 07, 2008 9:03 pm

Thanks Marc,

every little bit helps.

Hope to hear from Breezy and SilverStar owners. These stats are important to create the pattern overall - not just with Springys.

The lettering is going to play an important factor.

regards
Peter Mac
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Post by beppe1266 » Fri Feb 08, 2008 7:58 am

7 digit Serial No: eg 9001122
full Neck Stamp : eg 7=9a
full Body Stamp : eg 7=9 GS Z
Pickup code : eg U
Neck & Board : Rosewood

Silver Star (Spagetti logo)
1: 2026069
2: ?
3: 6=2 Y8 X
4: None
5: Maple

Springy Sound ST70 (Spagetti logo)
1: 1024205
2: 12=9
3: 12=9 GS YSO X
4: E
5: RW

rgrafend

Post by rgrafend » Sat Feb 09, 2008 6:33 pm

1980 ST100 black
1) 7 digit serial: 0000717
2) neck-stamp: 1=3
3) body stamp: not readable, sorry. best guess is 7=1
4) E
5) maple, ebony (not sure, but not rosewood, grain similar to jacaranda); no skunk

rgrafend

Post by rgrafend » Sat Feb 09, 2008 6:40 pm

1981 ST80 FR
1) 7 digit serial: 0013183
2) neck-stamp: will send later
3) same
4) E
5) maple (hard V like the 100); rosewood; no skunk

rgrafend

Post by rgrafend » Sat Feb 09, 2008 6:44 pm

1981(80?) ST80 GS

1) 7 digit serial: 0013126
2) 7=7
3) 5=7 GS
4) E
5) mape, soft V, skunk

I'd aslo suggest to have a close look at the pots and the caps.

And thanks for starting this thread!

Best, Rup

rgrafend

Post by rgrafend » Sat Feb 09, 2008 6:51 pm

I also sold an ST80 to Ken and an ST50 to Belgium. If the new owners agree I'll post the details too.

I'll post more Springy details when I've been to the cellar.

Cheers. Rup

rgrafend

Post by rgrafend » Sat Feb 09, 2008 6:59 pm

Breezys are a bit more difficult (but my prefered ones).

1981 TE150

1) no serial
2) 2=2
3) 2=2 NS
4) pass
5) maple, sknung, hard V

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