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balint137
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New vintage Tokai owner here

Post by balint137 » Sun Oct 20, 2019 9:26 am

Hi guys,

My first post, greetings to everybody from Hungary! I recently joined the group of proud Tokai owners, I bought this beautiful Goldstar Sound from 1984:

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The seller told me everything is original except the pickup switch and volume pot, but didn't know the exact model.
Based on pieces of information I read on this forum, my guess is an ST-50. The price in USD was about 470, which is a good deal IMO.

The guitar feels very nice and it's in a good overall condition. There are some uneven frets and there's a dent in 18-19th under the 3rd string. I don't think there's enough material left for leveling, so I might take it to refretting soon. Also the neck has almost no relief with the truss rod completely loose, I'm not sure if it's stuck somehow or the wood itself is so stiff. But it's not a big problem, the setup is still okay.

More pictures: https://ibb.co/album/ifA1bF?sort=title_asc

Cheers,
Balint

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Re: New vintage Tokai owner here

Post by felixcatus » Sun Oct 20, 2019 11:55 am

Congrats, and welcome to the forum.

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Re: New vintage Tokai owner here

Post by brokentoes » Sun Oct 20, 2019 12:07 pm

It's at least a 60 because it has the "E" pickups.

I'd say you did well, and when you refret you can choose your best option for fretwire.

Congrats

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Re: New vintage Tokai owner here

Post by Mono » Thu Oct 24, 2019 7:32 am

If it was shipped with no string tension the neck will have straightened out. What I usually do is put on some big gauge strings, as tight as theyll go without snapping and leave the body laying on the ground with the neck propped up at the headstock by a big book of something, so gravity will propt the neck to relieve again.

Nice guitar though :)

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Re: New vintage Tokai owner here

Post by HAMAMATSU » Fri Oct 25, 2019 2:47 am

8) very cool guitar! tokai is well known and popular in hungary now and then? congrats and welcome!
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Re: New vintage Tokai owner here

Post by Peter Mac » Fri Oct 25, 2019 11:01 pm

Hi guys,

Very nice guitar but it has had a neck swap.
Serial number is for a rosewood neck - not a maple one. Maple one would be 5 digits for ST-50 and 4 digits for ST-60
Neck and body stamps don't match.
Neck has Goldstar logo but serial could be Springy - I'll look further.
If this was ST-60 (going by the pickups), the Maple neck would have a round string tree and V-neck.

Overall though, if it plays well and kicks ass, that is all that matters....and of course you got it at a good price

regards
Peter
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Re: New vintage Tokai owner here

Post by balint137 » Sat Oct 26, 2019 3:25 am

felixcatus wrote:
Sun Oct 20, 2019 11:55 am
Congrats, and welcome to the forum.
brokentoes wrote:
Sun Oct 20, 2019 12:07 pm
It's at least a 60 because it has the "E" pickups.

I'd say you did well, and when you refret you can choose your best option for fretwire.

Congrats
Thanks guys! 8)

Yes I'm thinking about taller frets, the fingerboard already has some dents caused by the strings.
Hmm not sure about the 60, it seems to have a 3-piece body. Although it's hard to assess because of the finish.

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Re: New vintage Tokai owner here

Post by balint137 » Sat Oct 26, 2019 4:00 am

Mono wrote:
Thu Oct 24, 2019 7:32 am
If it was shipped with no string tension the neck will have straightened out. What I usually do is put on some big gauge strings, as tight as theyll go without snapping and leave the body laying on the ground with the neck propped up at the headstock by a big book of something, so gravity will propt the neck to relieve again.

Nice guitar though :)
Whoa that sounds drastic, but efficient! :D I'll keep it in mind if I'm not satisfied with the relief later.
HAMAMATSU wrote:
Fri Oct 25, 2019 2:47 am
8) very cool guitar! tokai is well known and popular in hungary now and then? congrats and welcome!
Thanks! I wouldn't say well known, but some vintage Tokais pop up from time to time on the local advertisement websites.

Off-topic:
A guitar brand called Tokai sounds funny here, we have a famous city and wine region called Tokaj, pronounced the same.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tokaj_wine_region
So people (even some musicians) look weird at you when you mention Tokai guitars first, everybody thinks of some cheap local replicas with a misspelled name of the city, instead of fine Japanese craftsmanship :D

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Re: New vintage Tokai owner here

Post by balint137 » Sat Oct 26, 2019 4:14 am

Peter Mac wrote:
Fri Oct 25, 2019 11:01 pm
Hi guys,

Very nice guitar but it has had a neck swap.
Serial number is for a rosewood neck - not a maple one. Maple one would be 5 digits for ST-50 and 4 digits for ST-60
Neck and body stamps don't match.
Neck has Goldstar logo but serial could be Springy - I'll look further.
If this was ST-60 (going by the pickups), the Maple neck would have a round string tree and V-neck.

Overall though, if it plays well and kicks ass, that is all that matters....and of course you got it at a good price

regards
Peter
Hi Peter,

Interesting stuff, thanks for the insight! The neck looks more like C or U to me, and the body seems to be 3-piece.
You're right, of course most important is that it plays nice :D Anyway, it's interesting to find out more about the history of the guitar.

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