Please identify my new Breezy

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Post by JohnA » Tue Jun 02, 2009 7:29 am

Thanks Wox, so is the gold binding and darker body colour a definite indication of a early '80's TE-120?

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Re: Tokai Breezysound

Post by bunbury » Tue Jun 02, 2009 7:56 am

Well, well! That's brilliant :D . Snap too - we have a matching pair. What pick-ups have you got in the 120?

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Post by stratman323 » Tue Jun 02, 2009 9:04 am

Thanks wox, very nice guitar, but how can you be so sure which is which? And could you tell us what sort of truss rod adjuster your guitar has? Hex or cross head?

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Tokai Breezysound

Post by wox » Tue Jun 02, 2009 9:49 am

Hi. Cross head, A stamp Tokai pickups
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Post by the_man » Tue Jun 02, 2009 5:55 pm

I don't know too much about nice bindings: but...

- a single ash body like Mike's is fairly rare and I only see it on my TE120s and TE150s (btw.: pics should still be on the forum); one was from Mark

- a 10 year flat sawn neck (instead of quarter sawn or 15-20 years flat for a TE120) maple does not fit the body

- the hardware and the electronics (especially the cap) point to a 1981 TE150

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Re: Tokai Breezysound

Post by bluejeannot » Tue Jun 02, 2009 7:34 pm

wox wrote:Hi. Cross head, A stamp Tokai pickups
http://wm59.inbox.com/thumbs/18_342f9_4 ... .jpg.thumb
Hey Mike check out the hand written n k z in green ink in wox`s pickup cavity,its just like the writing in your control cavity.Gabe.Does your guitar have "clay dots"Wox?
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Re: Tokai Breezysound

Post by bunbury » Wed Jun 03, 2009 2:51 am

wox wrote:Hi. Cross head, A stamp Tokai pickups
http://wm59.inbox.com/thumbs/18_342f9_4 ... .jpg.thumb
Mine are:

TE-120 .. (gold)
7 digit Serial No: 10****2
Neck Stamp : very hard to read ?=1?K (=10K? =18K?)
Body Stamp : 10=10K
Pickup : 'A' (neck), bridge 'A'
Neck/Board : Rosewood
Spag Logo above rectangular spring tree
6 saddle bridge (bronzed + plate)
White scratch plate and switch button


TE 80A (silver)

6 digit Serial No: 01***9
full Neck Stamp : 3-3
full Body Stamp : 3-3
Pickup code : neither is marked on its base in a way that I can see (I now have a TE-A in the neck).
Neck/Board : Maple, skunk
Block logo below round spring tree
6 saddle bridge (silver + plate)
Marbled scratch plate and black switch button

Wox - your's look exaclty like mine. Even the scratch plates and switch buttons are the same colours. I had thought the white on my 120 was non-original. Looks like I was wrong.

I can't remember if the 120 is hex or crosshead, but the 80 is crosshead. If I can remember my photobucket login, I'll post some more photos of the innards of the 80, ditto the 120 (if I can find them).

I think we're making a very strong case for three 120s here. Altho' if any one wants to up it to three 150s ... well, thank you Rupert!

I think I posted earlier that I didn't know the pups in the 120 ... sorry, I was away from home and getting a bit doddery and confused. Nothing that can't be explained by age and alcohol. It's the 80 that has the unidentified pups.

stratman323

Post by stratman323 » Tue Nov 24, 2009 5:00 am

OK, after a long period of getting to know the guitar, I've finally replaced the Fender vintage type bridge with a Tokai 6 part bridge - many thanks to bobtastik for selling it to me at a fair price.

Before:

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After - much nicer :P These are excellent Tele bridges.

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The previous owner seemed to want to hide the guitar's Tokai ancestry - I'm moving things back in the other direction. I can't say I noticed any difference in tone after changing the bridge, but the Tokai bridge is far more comfortable to rest your right hand on, & it's nice to be rid of the annoying raised edges, which don't seem to contribute anything.

So that should have been it. Except that I wondered about that big rout under the scratchplate, & thought that maybe the time had come to try a humbucker or P90.......

The HB seemed to be more fiddly to fit, so I used the neck pickup I had previously removed from my LS85S. It's a rough job (it's a rough rout! :-? ) & I know the P90 isn't yet mounted straight, but it works. I think I like it. :P There's quite a big difference in tone between the bright bridge pickup & the warm & fat neck P90, but I think it might stay like this for a while. But what should I do about the looks?

My first thought was just to get a new scratchplate made with a P90 sized hole, but I was looking at it yesterday & I'm wondering if there's another way round it. Because it doesn't have a visible channel for the neck pickup wiring (like many Fenders have), it seems a shame to cover up the gorgeous sen with a bit of white plastic, so I'm wondering how feasible it is to get the roughly done rout patched up to leave just a P90 sized hole so I can keep it without a scratchplate. I don't imagine it would be easy to patch up a hole like that so that it isn't very obvious though.

What do you think?

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Post by DaveWW » Tue Nov 24, 2009 5:38 am

Hi Mike,

Your getting adventurous :wink:

How about a dog eared P90 pickup cover and then you could fit it to a very small rectangular plate just big enough to cover the rout but equi-spaced to the cover all the way around.


Dave

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Post by stratman323 » Tue Nov 24, 2009 5:47 am

I don't think that would fit Dave. The hole is just that little bit bigger than a humbucker mounting ring, so there is unlikely to be a plate available that would fit. Anyway, a dog-ear P90 would look wrong on a guitar like this, it needs to be the soap bar shape (IMHO).

I was just wondering whether a skilled woodworker could patch up the hole with suitably coloured (or stained) pieces of wood to leave me with a hole just big enough for a soap-bar P90? If so, it could look good. But it wouldn't be easy.....

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Post by DaveWW » Tue Nov 24, 2009 6:29 am

You'd need to make or get the plate made and the dog ears could go underneath. The plate could be from anything you want - say bright metal of some sort. The pickups on my airline tuxedo are sort of like that. .........but you're right it might not fit without making the hole bigger. Anyway just an idea.

Dave

stratman323

Post by stratman323 » Tue Dec 01, 2009 8:22 am

OK, I've tried fitting the scratchplate from a bitsa-Tele I have, & it almost fits, but not quite. I don't like black, so I want to buy a white one so my tech can make the hole P90 sized for me. But where should I go to get a white/black/white scratchplate that will fit a Breezy? Does anyone know of a good UK based supplier?

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Post by DaveWW » Tue Dec 01, 2009 12:30 pm

Axesrus do three ply 8 hole tele pickups http://www.axesrus.com/AxePlatesTele.html

Not sure it willl fit a breezy - does the partscaster plate you tried fit?


Dave

stratman323

Post by stratman323 » Tue Dec 01, 2009 12:37 pm

DaveWW wrote:Axesrus do three ply 8 hole tele pickups http://www.axesrus.com/AxePlatesTele.html

Not sure it willl fit a breezy - does the partscaster plate you tried fit?

Thanks Dave, I usually use axerus as my first point of call, but I wasn't sure if Breezys were different in any way to other Teles. No, it almost fits but the holes are in the wrong place, & it's a bit too big around the neck.

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Post by Dave_Mc » Tue Dec 01, 2009 12:48 pm

i like the black scratchplate :lol:

how about tortoiseshell?

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