Warning - new Tokai -Fakai - Tokai fake - Quality issues

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murrman1
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Warning - new Tokai -Fakai - Tokai fake - Quality issues

Post by murrman1 » Sun Oct 04, 2020 11:52 am

Recently purchased and returned my dream Tokai ATE Rosewood - which was represented as a 1985 but turned out to be a modern fake. I am seeing these on ATEs on EBAY all the time now. Please be aware these are made of a type of press board or a type of MDF not real wood! The whole guitar is no where near the quality of the actual 80's vintage version but are being sold at vintage prices.
Since the guitar was already few year old the wood was starting to break down. The 1/4" jack was loose and was not repairable because the MDF and kept chipping away like a cheap IKEA cabinet.
In my opinion it sounded nothing like a Tele. The pickups sound was not near the quality of the other vintage Tokai Guitars I own. Note the cheap magnets glued to the back.
Just wanted to show some pictures to help someone identify these guitars and avoid the mistake I made. It is my opinion these guitars are not worth the $1200+ that is being asked...

Here is an image of pickups and mdf...
https://preview.redd.it/n1xl2eww54r51.j ... 9e50504d08

mdvineng
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Re: Warning - new Tokai -Fakai - Tokai fake - Quality issues

Post by mdvineng » Tue Oct 06, 2020 11:35 pm

Pictures of the serial number would be useful. Back of the headstock etc
Tokai VSB80 OF, Michael Kelly Patriot custom, Epiphone Elite SG & EB3. 8)

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Re: Warning - new Tokai -Fakai - Tokai fake - Quality issues

Post by murrman1 » Sun Nov 08, 2020 9:48 am

Here are a few additional pics as requested
https://www.flickr.com/photos/8135241@N07/shares/He6Q01

mdvineng
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Re: Warning - new Tokai -Fakai - Tokai fake - Quality issues

Post by mdvineng » Sun Nov 08, 2020 10:19 am

Ser # could be printed in the neck pocket

Looking like an ATE70 in the 2003 catalogue page 6 https://www.vintagejapanguitars.com.br/ ... catalogue/
Tokai VSB80 OF, Michael Kelly Patriot custom, Epiphone Elite SG & EB3. 8)

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