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What Amps?

Post by kevcaster » Sun Jan 20, 2008 8:58 am

I'm using a Rivera M60 1x12 for gigs and a Fender Blues Junior with a Jenson P12 for rehearsal and occasionally for small pub gigs.
I bought the Rivera unheard, on reputation, and love it. After about 3 years I changed the speaker from the Eminence (I dropped a screwdriver through the cone!!!!) to a Jensen P12n (flabby at volume) and found it a poor match so kept going and settled on a Celestion G12, it provides a lot more control and chime, it seems altogether better suited to the amp - 2x EL34's.
The M60 has a lot of different sounds if you care to explore them and has perhaps the first quality amp to emulate and cover much of the traditional amp sounds Marshall through Fender. I tend to set up the 2 channels pretty standard for all gigs - cleanish and drive, there is enough to worry about without trying new settings. I don't use o/drive pedals but do have a Tremulator, wah, phaser and chorus.

I have found that my ES130 needs a deal more treble from the amp than the Teles, as you might expect. I have to take care of this so don't swap mid set - I may play around with this and see if I can get it set up for all songs. it is less of a problem at higher volumes where the richness of the harmonics seems to sound good for everything!
What are your experiences in this respect, I imagine several of you have multiple guitars?

I've enjoyed this thread, I have a sneaking suspicion that a good amp makes more difference than a good guitar, heresy I imagine on this forum?
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Re: What Amps?

Post by stratman323 » Sun Jan 20, 2008 9:08 am

kevcaster wrote:I have found that my ES130 needs a deal more treble from the amp than the Teles, as you might expect. I have to take care of this so don't swap mid set - I may play around with this and see if I can get it set up for all songs. it is less of a problem at higher volumes where the richness of the harmonics seems to sound good for everything!
What are your experiences in this respect, I imagine several of you have multiple guitars?

I've enjoyed this thread, I have a sneaking suspicion that a good amp makes more difference than a good guitar, heresy I imagine on this forum?
Yes I find the same thing. Although I love my Blues Deluxe, it's hardly the most flexible amp in the world, and if I try using something other than a Strat or a Tele at a gig/rehearsal, it's hard to get both the volume & the tone right without fiddling around with the settings, which isn't really an option at a gig. I tend to use a Strat for one set and a Tele for the other set.

I have a LP special with P100s, a Gibson Blueshawk, & have just got an Epi Casino with P90s, but I've yet to use them at a gig. I don't like the thought that I need a more flexible amp, but it does look that way. :(

It's funny, but I find it easy to identify guitars I want, but not amps. Partly due to lack of knowledge really, which is why this is such an interesting thread.

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Post by GPCarpenter » Sun Jan 20, 2008 9:10 am

I have a reissue Marshall Bluesbreaker that's been heavily modded...PTP board, MM trannies and new speakers (a Celestion G12H and Eminence Red Fang).

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Post by ChicoBluez » Mon Jan 21, 2008 5:33 pm

stratman323 wrote:
ChicoBluez wrote: 2-1st issue Fender Blues Deluxes '93 & '95
2? You must play some big gigs if one isn't enough for you? :o
Is this big enough for you? :o

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Post by stratman323 » Mon Jan 21, 2008 6:37 pm

Are they both Blues Deluxe amps? Looks like I'm not the only one who didn't buy an amp cover. :lol:

Well, they look really cool, I guess I made a good choice in 93?

Has your band played in England?

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Re: What Amps?

Post by kevcaster » Tue Jan 22, 2008 2:34 am

:P[/Although I love the Blues Deluxe]

Blues Deluxe would be another choice for my taste, it is close to the Blues Junior in sound with a lot more wallop. I played through one at a evening course I did at the ACM in Guildford where they are the studio amps. I really liked them but I'm committed to the Rivera.

We don't mic anything but vocals so it's good to have a bit of extra volume for the occasional Marquee gig - this prevents me from looking at the Blues Deluxe as a replacement for the 60w Rivera, and I can get close to the sound with tweaking.

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Post by ChicoBluez » Tue Jan 22, 2008 11:43 am

stratman323 wrote:Are they both Blues Deluxe amps? Looks like I'm not the only one who didn't buy an amp cover. :lol:

Well, they look really cool, I guess I made a good choice in 93?

Has your band played in England?

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Yes they both are. I had to relic the '95 to look as bad as the '93. Both are amber laquerd to give that "vintage" vibe. I play in stereo and use the amps as monitors only. FOH does all the room work. For the $650.00 USC or less new, these amps are not too shabby. I've seen them used on eBay for about $450.00.

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Here's a pic of my old rig: Mesa Boogie MII B

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Post by tokaigeezer » Wed Jan 23, 2008 8:46 pm

I play my 1980 Reborn Old LS-50 through a Michael Swart Atomic Space Tone 20-watt tube amp. 8)

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Post by theriffjunkie » Tue Feb 19, 2008 7:37 am

I love my SJB 100 watt Valve Head....... made in somerset UK in 1990
i use this with a Jenson loaded 4x10 cab
fulltone 2 overdrive
voodoolabs microvibe
T.C.Jaurnig boost
and a 1970's jd wah

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