what model is this loverock?

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what model is this loverock?

Post by mcv » Thu Jun 29, 2006 3:58 am

i just got this tokai loverock and i want to know what model is it: LS-50, 60, 80?
sn is 4022494
the neck pup is covered (says PAF57), bridge is not, no marking of any sort.
it appears to be a solid back and 2 piece top.
color is a desert burst.
please help me out, i need all the info i can get!

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Post by ned » Thu Jun 29, 2006 8:06 am

There has been some pup changing. Do you know which one is original? If the bridge pup is original I would say LS-50.

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Post by mcv » Thu Jun 29, 2006 9:32 am

no, i don?t know anything about it. the neck pickup seems to be the original one.

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Post by Skybone » Thu Jun 29, 2006 10:12 am

The neck pickup looks original, however the bridge looks as though it's been changed for an aftermarket pickup. So long as it sounds good, I wouldn't worry too much, as that's why we buy them in the first place isn't it? ;)

I'd disagree with the LS50, as they're the solid colour models, it looks to me as though it's an LS60, as it's a plain maple top. There should be some markings in the neck pickup cutout, but I can't see anything in the photo's, they're handwritten usually, giving the model no. but sometimes it is a bit hard to read.

I'm going with LS60.

How old is it BTW?

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Post by togps » Thu Jun 29, 2006 10:34 am

Skybone wrote: ....I'd disagree with the LS50, as they're the solid colour models, it looks to me as though it's an LS60, as it's a plain maple top.
LS50 indicates a 3-pcs. top.
LS50 were available in colored as well in plain top.
Skybone wrote:How old is it BTW?
I second that. This should be the first question

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Post by mcv » Thu Jun 29, 2006 1:32 pm

Skybone wrote:The neck pickup looks original, however the bridge looks as though it's been changed for an aftermarket pickup. So long as it sounds good, I wouldn't worry too much, as that's why we buy them in the first place isn't it? ;)

I'd disagree with the LS50, as they're the solid colour models, it looks to me as though it's an LS60, as it's a plain maple top. There should be some markings in the neck pickup cutout, but I can't see anything in the photo's, they're handwritten usually, giving the model no. but sometimes it is a bit hard to read.

I'm going with LS60.

How old is it BTW?
its a 1984 model, and it has no writing inside the pup cavity, that i can see, anyhow.

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Post by mcv » Thu Jun 29, 2006 1:33 pm

serial number is 4022494, so i assume its an 84?

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Post by togps » Thu Jun 29, 2006 1:46 pm

Yup, it is a 1984.
It is no LS80. It doesn't feature fret edge binding.
It is no LS60. In 1984, there were no LS60 available.
It is a LS50. Even it feature a 2-pcs. top
Good luck.

Please tell the forum, are you the buyer and maybe already the owner?
How much did you paid for it?
Or you are the seller?
How much do you ask for?

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Post by mcv » Thu Jun 29, 2006 3:41 pm

it has 2 piece carved maple top, one piece back. no fret edge binding (non of the LS-80 came without binding?), also, the "old sunburst" color did not come with the LS-50 right?
the head angle is 18?
it was sold to me as an LS-80, i just bought it, i?m a new tokai owner! i will reserve the price i paid for it (sorry). plays great, sounds better and is very light weight.

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Post by villager » Thu Jun 29, 2006 3:55 pm

could be a refretted LS-80

if you hold her up in direct sunlight at a certain angle, you may be able to see the mark left by the sticker..its just under the serial number..50% of the time its readable under the right light..

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Post by mcv » Tue Jul 25, 2006 3:25 pm

bump......

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Post by ochay » Wed Jul 26, 2006 8:06 am

mcv-looks like a LS60 to me-
does not make sence that there was a LS 60 in 1983 and in 1985 but not in 1984. ????

The Tokai PAF's are consistant with the 1983 thru 1985 LS Love Rocks.

Nice Guitar though ! You Slap some Burstbuckers in her or some old Demarzio's and there wouldn't be much differance between your guitar and a higher end LS120 (I'm talking about pre-83 LS120's) soundwise.
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Post by mcv » Wed Jul 26, 2006 3:08 pm

thanks ochay, i?m almost certain its a LS-60. it really is a nice guitar, i?m liking it more than my original 93 Les Paul, and the tokai PAF pickups sound really good! specially the bridge one.

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