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Fake or unauthorized ES model in natural, blue, & red sunburst.

These were apparently made by Saein Musical Instrumnet Co. in China.

The Mysterious Fake Tokai ES Models (Shine or Saein)

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Chinese serial number???

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Is this real?

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Tokais Made In Korea

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Help Identifying a 335 style

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Tokai Es hollow body | Reverb
 
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For comparison. Legit guitar to compare fonts.

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The font on the "CH" is slightly different than the legit copies. Hard to spot though.

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zbillster2 said:
Just a warning: I bought a black LPC guitar advertised as "new" from Music Express Canada from this listing:

https://reverb.com/item/1314946-tokai-love-rock-custom-black-electric-guitar-new-with-hard-case

I have a Chinese wine red LPC Tokai from 2012 already for comparison. Noticed right away something was amiss. Action not great, red stains under the neck binding, upper bout not quite round. Serial number prefix didn't match the photos in the ad. And you could see where part of the previous guitar's serial number was printed on the corner of the headstock!

After much communication and with help from Reverb customer support, I was able to get a refund of ALL my money, including return shipping. Whew!

Plus I contacted Tokai Gakki in Japan with photos of the guitar at https://flic.kr/s/aHskSpgUZp and they sent me this reply:

Dear Mr.Bill,

Sorry for my late reply.

We discern the guitar is counterfeit.

I do not want them(the shops/ and its Chinese Supplier) any hint to recognize the authenticity/counterfeit,

So I cannot give you the points to discern the counterfeit.

Besides, we are not allowed to export our set-neck models to North America.


I do not recommend that you buy Tokai set-neck models in your area.

I hope the info helps you.

Best Regards
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Kosuke Ban

Tokai Gakki Co. Ltd.
2-26-10 Enshuhama, Minami-ku,
Hamamatsu,Japan 430-0835


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